okay so emulators are now very accessible for mobile users and can be obtained directly from the play/app store we had a talk before about how mobile emulators can be inconsistent, well delta doesn’t have that issue it appears. I have tested with bad and good wifi vpn no vpn etc etc everything is always the same it runs perfectly everytime no graphic issues no sound issues the emulator respond VERY well, here i present you a semi-casual test run on delta feel free to laugh at my terrible skills since i havent ran this game in forever :) anyway all of this to say i think we should accept mobile runs :P
So, it goes quite a bit further than what you've explained to have an emulator taken into serious consideration to be whitelisted for this game.
A non exhaustive list of questions would include the following:
- What's the framerate?
- Is the framerate consistent?
- Can you perform illegal inputs such as L+R?
- Is the ROM provided by you or is it loaded by the app?
- Is the ROM legitimate/unaltered?
This game is optimized to the point of where a single frame is a significant measure of time, so we'd have to be reasonably certain that it meets the rather high bar of expectations to be fair to everyone in the community.
To answer your question: the rom is provided by the user, Framerate Is consistent and neither the framerate nor the roms are altered, the inputs you can do are the same on console delta allow you to connect a controler by bluetooth but most importantly the emulator own virtual controler adapt to match the console therefore preventing any turbo inputs, i’ve been testing delta for a long time and it appears that delta does what most allowed emulators would do but on a mobile device. The framerate of all of the roms i have tested so far appears to match frame rates with the allowed emulators and/or consoles :P so if we get delta for this game then we could eventually get delta to be added as a legal emulators for other games granting mobile users without a pc or ways to setup properly on a pc a way to speedrun legally without any advantages. Unless you call being able to speedrun anywhere on the go an advantage i guess lol.
Delta's NES core seems to be powered by Nestopia UE v1.48, for what it's worth. That should meet this game's accuracy threshold, although as Roopert expressed, many other factors would need to be considered.
Seems that Delta takes around 0.2s longer to run out of time in 1-1 than my AV Famicom:
Going to guess this runs at 60 flat or something comparable? I'm sure someone could perform more exhaustive research on this topic. Can also confirm that opposing D-Pad directions are disallowed, at least with touch controls.
All of this is doable on all legal emulators and on console, this is the 4-2 wrong warp on mobile :3
Switch NSO runs at 60fps flat and that's allowed right? It's a problem when the game runs faster even if just slightly, not that much when it just runs slightly slower
Im trash compared to nifski (shoutout to nifski) but here is a comparison of 1-1! Of course i messed up and dont got the perfect routing so its slower in term of speedrun time however i think the game run exactly the same on both versions! :)
Well, it seems you're playing the PAL version, so that can't be a 1:1 comparison anyway.
The quick analysis I did with Simplistic's video seems it runs around 60 flat.
Never realised sorry anyway i tested it using smb+duck hunt USA (same as nifski i believe) and it seems that both version indeed run on 60 flat. and delta appear to match most legal emulators :) https://jmp.sh/s/yApk7DMPwv9nIrpfMScZ
@VixxieYume I think you just need to wait until the moderators do testing thay will know for sure weather it is
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