EnglandWith the game being new I'd like to make this post to talk about Categories & Rules
ILs: Social Media Posts are banned form being used as image proof as people can private or delete their accounts at any point, which will make the image un-viewable
Full-Game Runs:
Story Mode:
The Run will go up to Chapter 5, I'll add a board once someone does a run
If a lot of people end up running chapter 4 instead I may add it to misc. (I don't really want to add it though as the run is contained within chapter 5 runs)
I will add All Fighters Single Handed Mode, Like in KFD, But you will have to wait on this one. There is strong evidence to suggest that Paid DLC will be coming soon and this will affect the category. If there is paid DLC, DLC runs will be main and Non-DLC runs will be misc. (Due to it not actually being "All Fighters"). This is subject to change.
A cutoff has been introduced. All times below 25 minutes require video proof.
Instead of the old rule of top 3 requiring video, A cutoff has been introduced. All times below 50 minutes require video proof.
Instead of the old rule of top 3 requiring video, A cutoff has been introduced. All times below 57 minutes require video proof.
There are currently many things I'd like to change about the boards. I'd like to know your opinions on these:
Any% - I believe Legacy and 4.0.0 should be combined into 1 board, with a variable on what version you play. Sokuno has found that Later version actually have faster loads, so 1.0.0 Digital wouldn't even be faster than 4.0.0
Guest Stars - I would like to remove the original board. No one actively competes on the original category due to MK no longer being the optimal choice, meaning Original is just a longer run. Before Original was the choice of runners due to a lack of piggybacking
100% - I'm not 100% sure. There are 4 options:
- Keep it misc.
- Make it a main
- Remove it entirely
- Replace it with All Switches + Big Pieces
I'm leaning on All Big Pieces + Switches, due to having a different route form Crown%
Ultimate Choice - I think Sizzling Threat should be removed. It is not the same as the Arenas from other games, your best time for Sizzling Threat isn't even saved, and it is treated like any other easier difficulty. With Soul Melter EX out there is even more reason to remove this
Multiplayer:
Multiplayer would make a lot of the fights faster and eliminate a huge luck factor in the run
If you do finish a multiplayer run please say so and I'll add sub categories
Transaction:
Buying a Transaction during the run would completely change up the route and how the game is played
My idea for this would be to allow people to use the Nintendo Online Service to make a backup save right after they buy the 5k Gem Apples.
The issue for this would be that you would skip out the Hornhead fight in the run, but I find that preferable to having to pay £35 everytime
Best Ending:
This would go up to Aeon Hero (Light)
I did not add it as I feel people would not be interested in it, As that's how Middle Categories usually are
I may add it as misc. if someone does a serious attempt (As in with an actual route)
With the Special Episode out we have made some more changes!
-ILs have been added
- A Category for Any%, 100%, and NG+ have been made -For Any% and 100% Amiibo is banned due to giving far too big of an advantage for people who own one, compared to the other categories
With the new update out some changes have been made to the boards:
-All RTA categories now have a Co-Op sub category -All ILs now have sub categories as well -Added level numbers to the ILs
Co-Op is defined by using 2 controllers, 1p2c and 2p2c will be put in the same categories
We won't be making any decisions on DLC until it comes out
4.0.0 is out and a bunch of stuff has changed for speedrunning I haven't made any changes yet but I will do so soon
Any%: Will be split into Legacy / Current when someone does a run on 4.0.0. I've allowed 1.0.0 for Legacy as well now.
100%: New modes actually do reward you with a crown on your save file. Once someone who's good at the game completes a run that gets the crown, I will probably move 100% to misc. (By "good" I mean someone who didn't just do a run with no practice to get an easy wr)
Guest Stars: I will add Wave 3 soon
Heroes in Another Dimension: I will add 2 categories: Any Rank and S Perfect Rank Self explanatory
The Ultimate Choice: New mode has been added, will make it into a category.
Currently the il boards has no console split
Some individual stages have differences between them that makes them distinct, like Rock Block Badlands in 3DS having much less Blocks, or Being able to abuse 2p in Battle Tower Blitz on Switch
But at the same time, there are also many stages with no differences at all
I would like to know all of your opinions
Made video proof requirements for certain times in RTA categories (for 100% all runs require video proof)
For Arena and True Arena WR no longer requires video (However, all runs will require image proof)
Banned game overs in Dedede Tour as you can abuse them to redo segments
Note: If someone can provide me with evidence that you can use NTR without speeding up loads I'll unban them, honestly I don't know too much about NTR
Made video proof requirements for certain times in RTA categories (for 100% all runs require video proof)
For Arena and True Arena WR no longer requires video (However, all runs will require image proof)
Banned game overs in MKR as you can abuse them to redo segments
Note: If someone puts effort into doing runs with amiibos I will add them as sub categories for the RTA categories
Character - Minigame - Description
Dribble & Spitz - Stop! Go! - Touch the squid without getting caught
Ashley - Space Passage - Turn the planet around so the alien can fit through
18-Volt - Animal Crossing: Wild World - Fishing
Cricket & Mantis - Local News - Hold a microphone to a baseball player
Orbulon - Fuse - Extend a bomb's rope so it lights on fire
Orbulon - Sinking Feeling - Hold a platform up so a car can pass through
Mike - Grape Aim - Shoot some Grapes
The losing animation for any given character has the same amount of frames as the winning animation
3.0.0 removed a lot of rooms for the original character (DLC don't have many changes)
Level 1 - No Change
Level 2 - In the first room with the wheel, the load zone is a little earlier (Applies to some DLC as well) (Saves 5s)
Level 2 - The room with the key dees has it's first half cut off (Everything after the first bridge is still there) (Saves 35s)
Level 3 - The diamond shaped room before the room with the electric saw blades has been removed (Saves 5s)
Level 3 - The room right after the cannons and before Flamberge with the Poppy Bro has been removed (Saves 5s)
Level 4 - The diamond shaped water current room with the switch and the cannon has been removed (15s)
Level 5 - Extra Planet Delta has been removed entirely (The level with the friend doors) (this doesn't apply to any DLC characters who normally have this stage) (Saves 55s)
Total Save - 2:00 (35 for DLC)
I'll add images later
Due to no one running 10 abilities (Everyone did All Abilities), I have removed category
N3DS has slightly slower slower loads, these only seem to apply when there's a cut scene though, I imagine this to lose about 20 seconds throughout the run
Another big thing is lag. New 3DS seems to lag a lot more. A good example of this is in dream's Deep in Dreamy Pi'lloh Castle, or the Flames skip in Neo Bowser's Castle
Crafty Gamer's 100% run was done with an amiibo, something which is banned in the current rules. Because of the differences in routing for All Code Cubes and 100% (And maybe Any% if UFO is fast) we could add this as a sub category, instead of outright removing his run
With Wave 2 out I have done a run with Dark Meta Knight and beat my Marx time by over 2.5 minutes
So now is the question, should we separate Wave 2 into its own category or keep it with Wave 1 as a DLC category?
Both options have pros and cons but I'll list the 1 biggest reason for both options
Keep as DLC - The runs are both much shorter than Original, and with there being 1 more confirmed wave (And potentially 1 after that as well) It may end up looking cluttered if we have 5 categories for Guest Stars
Seperate into Waves - Despite similar lengths, there are still numerous differences, differences that can cause competition between all the waves. If we combined all into 1, all competition would be on a single character despite others having some differences. By keeping them separate all of the waves would have competition and people working to push multiple characters down.
I'm personally for Separating, as not only do I like having more competition, but if in the future we decide keeping them all in 1 category was a better idea after, it would be really easy to put all runs in the same board. But if we only have 1 category, and we decide to separate them out due to future waves having even more differences, We would end up with multiple waves having a lack of runs due to people going with the fastest, and trying to sort current runs would be annoying.
I ask you for your opinions (I'm not doing a poll). I ask that you only respond if you have a run submitted to Guest Stars (a run and not a casual playthrough that you submitted).
