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QuébecDarkLightBoco5 years ago

No problem it's fine. :) Have fun and good luck!

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QuébecDarkLightBoco5 years ago

Oh yes actually, forgot something else really important... Timer needs to be set to "Game Time" not real time...

Right Click --> Compare Against --> Game Time

My bad for that it has been a while since have set up the script from scratch.

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QuébecDarkLightBoco5 years ago

Video on how to set up the load remover:

The video is a bit choppy since the recording was set to 60fps instead of 80fps.

Make sure your steam/game are up to the lastest update. You have to start the timer manually but after that the script will automaticly pause the timer once the victory screen pops up and then resume on the black screen of the next mission.

Also if you have multiple splits you have to do the split manually during the victory screen (which I totally forgot to do in the video xD).

You can download Lako's script in the resources section (make sure to grab the lastest one).

Hope this helps!

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QuébecDarkLightBoco5 years ago

I think that is normal. If you type in Star Wars Battlefront II without ":" the message "Load Removal is available. (By lako3000)" should still appear.

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QuébecDarkLightBoco6 years ago

Yeah I know, I did the same mistake too when I tried for the first time. The official name has the ":" but you have to write the name without it for our splits.

QuébecDarkLightBoco6 years ago

The first few things you should make are:

1-Battlefront II is up to date to the lastest steam version

2-Make sure the game name is exactly as follow: "Star Wars Battlefront II" If done correctly there should the message: "Load Removal is available By Lako3000" On the same screen, the script must be added from the settings button https://imgur.com/a/EgTMr

3-Make sure livesplit is set to "Game Time" , it is usually set "Real Time" by default. (Right click --> Compare against)

If this still does not work you could stop by our discord. Lako is pretty active there usually and he would be able to help you out.

QuébecDarkLightBoco6 years ago

At first we only had the any% categories and there was very few runners for the game, so back then the any% section was just created like that. The instant action section is a recent addition to the leaderboard and I knew that if I did do sub-categories it would be mess.

Doing the same thing for any% is a good idea, however I am afraid it will break the current submitted runs. Otherwise I will have to manually add them all back.

I will at least take look if I can do something about it. :)

QuébecDarkLightBoco6 years ago

Yeah Contrivit I am the one who fixed his time manually. Thanks for the help.

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QuébecDarkLightBoco6 years ago

Hey Braf, sorry I did not noticed that earlier. What happened is that the time without loads takes priority on our leaderboard and since you did not submitted anything for the time without loads it got push down to last place by default.

Submitting runs without having a "time without loads" is perfectly fine but make sure to put the same RTA time that you got as your "time without loads" next time. :)

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QuébecDarkLightBoco6 years ago

Damn, the update broke your load remover? That is unfornate lol. Hopefully you can manage to fix it. Kind of weird that a small update like that would break it when the update is not even campaign related.

QuébecDarkLightBoco6 years ago

For campaign, friendly fire ON is more optimal but friendly fire OFF can be pretty useful too.

Having it to OFF can make it easier to do the acklays strategies or just spams grenades in general without worrying of an accidental suicide for example. The downside is that you won't be able to get drops from killing your allies and you will to click respawn with Bobba Fett instead of suiciding with the deathpack on the last console for example.

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QuébecDarkLightBoco6 years ago

100% agree with ShikenNuggets. And there is barely any submitted times on the IL leaderboards at the moment. Probably a lot of people don't even knwo there is an IL leaderboard too. Not worth it in my opinion.

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QuébecDarkLightBoco6 years ago

The load time removal ruleset was made so that we could determine which run was the fastest based on gameplay alone since loading times varies from PC to PC for example.

If the game is not loading, it needs to counts as gameplay time. That is just how it is. RNG is a part of almost every speed runs. Descision making of whether or not use a Jedi bonus or just skip it and start the next fight as soon as possible is important too. We should not take advantage of how our time remover currently works as an excuse to try removing RNG from the run.

The load remover will not well for Galactic Conquest for now, but if implemented correctly it could very useful in the future. :)

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QuébecDarkLightBoco6 years ago

As I said before in some posts on this forum, I would like to avoid having too many categories on our leaderboards. We already have bunch and not that many people are running them.

But that does not mean I am against the idea. I think you should try it out for yourself and see if you like it. Then if there is more people trying it out too and liking it, I would be a lot more with the idea of creating this category with people already doing it rather than creating the category but no one actually doing it.

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QuébecDarkLightBoco6 years ago

You can submit like that it is fine. I did the same thing for Kashyyyk because I did not felt like grinding actual IL for it xD. The video I used for Kashyyyk is from a very old full game PB of mine.

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QuébecDarkLightBoco6 years ago

That issue has been on my mind as well, I have not yet replied to this thread yet because I was still thinking about.

The first problem is that we always been removing load time from when pressing "Quit" for RotE , not as soon as victory screen appears. And the second thing like Rakv said, the menu with the spinning planet does count toward your overall gametime since inputs are required by player to proceed.

I have been used to running this game this way for years now and removing load time manually does not take me too much time anymore. However, it really seems that the loading time removal rule has been turning down many new players from running the game. I have always wanted to be more people involve in speed running this game (especially for the any%w/bonuses category) so I think a change in the ruleset could be worthwhile to make the category more accessible.

Here is the changes I could do to the rules:

1-Load time is removed from the first frame that "Victory" appears.

2-Time spent on the planet screen does not need to be added anymore, timer will resume on the first black screen frame of the start of the next mission.

The time spent on the planet screen is so short and can be skipped through so fast with the help of keyboard inputs that I think ignoring it would be a good idea for everyone sake. Menuing is very important part of speed running I think as well, but if removing that time for everyone else is pain we better just remove that rule.

I still need some thinking about a few minor details but this is what I am thinking right now. Let me know what you guys think or if you have any other ideas. Thanks.

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QuébecDarkLightBoco6 years ago

Ok so when you meant "No Bonuses" I thought you meant like in Rise of the Empire.

In the Any% No Bonuses for RotE, no bonuses means that you start a run with a freash file with no medals aquired.

So you are saying that you want to do a galactic conquest run where you are not allowed to buy any upgrade or units and playing the entire thing with stormtrooper only?

QuébecDarkLightBoco6 years ago

No mods allowed is a safe bet I would say too. I'll be honest, my knowledge of mods for this game is close to none.

Adding mods makes it harder to verify runs, I would also need to be more knowledgeable about them. The verification process would be more painful because it would probably be harder to identify "that mod" that is advantageous hidden through all of the other mods.

I really do want to trust all you guys that are submitting runs to this leaderboards, but there always a possibility that someone tries to abuse the system and submit a unfair time just to be a jerk.

QuébecDarkLightBoco6 years ago

I do not think we will be adding any new categories for now. Barely anyone does them and the only runner that actually did them seriously is Lako a while a go. I would like to avoid creating a bunch of categories if no one is going to run them.

Galactic conquest no bonuses seems like a waste of time to me, it barely changes anything to the galactic conquest runs since you generally just abuse jedis anyway.

If we get more serious runners for galactic conquest, I could add it in the future.

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QuébecDarkLightBoco6 years ago

Just want to tell you guys that a #battlefront2 was added to the Star Wars Speed Runs discord, so get in there and let's keep speed running this game together! :)

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