Yeah I think with the amount of different ports we have the 100% category is unnecessary clutter and belongs better to miscellaneous. The strats that you do in 100% are still valid for any% (only difference being the arbitrary window cutscene), so it makes more sense to focus on any% for everyone and do whichever strats you like. It would also be nice for more of us (myself included when I go back to this game) to put time into learning the skips, some of which aren't super difficult but just make the run more reset heavy.

100% will still exist, just probably hidden under misc as Brando said, since lots of runners have put time into it. We just want the main focus to move towards any%.

My hope is that the separation encourages more console runners, but this is still a very sparsely ran game. Emulator runs have always been where the main competition lies and I think discussion has been discrediting the work that those runners have put into the game over the years. They still deserve recognition.

If more console runs do come in and categories become fuller we can talk about switching it to default but I just don't see the point in putting a bunch of empty categories as default when we have a lot more emulator runs to show. I couldn't really care less which is which personally, but I think it's only fair for the main body of runners to be visible by default.

It's the most popular/competitive and I literally JUST made the changes within the last hour. I'm open to discussion and suggestions on the layout but until more people start to run on console I think there shouldn't be a problem with emulator being listed first. Most console runs are years old and/or the categories are completely empty.

Okay so I went ahead and added emulator vs console as subcategories to test the water for now. If we don't like this we can change it back and/or edit the subcategory names. I'm not fully literate in speedrun.com tech either so if I've made any mistakes, mods feel free to edit/look over/re-do/revert the changes.

I think this is fine for the time being though?

I'm not really active on speedrun.com or this game anymore so I'm not sure my opinion really counts for much, but we're all adults here and basic discussions don't need to turn into arguments every time people are in disagreement about something.

Quite frankly, this game hadn't been researched into that deeply. It's never really had more than about 3 active runners at a time, and for the most part everyone ran on emulator. PSXJin was chosen basically over EPSXE for a thread of consistency through emulator runs without much regard for console runs (as there have never really been that many active console runners, not that this is ever an excuse for disregarding actual hardware). I have ran this game on console before and it's offputting because I always felt the loads were slower and personally suffered huge slowdowns and lag, but I wasn't in any position/lacked motivation to research into how the loads and slowdowns affected the IGT so I didn't encourage any discussion on it at the time.

I'm for separating EMU/Console if there is a significant difference in IGT. If it encourages fairness and for more people to run on original hardware I think that can only ever be a good thing. I do, however, also want the other mods/community to have at least a general sense of agreement on what changes are to be made.

Hi! I would like to request moderation for PaRappa the Rapper Remastered - it is a mostly dead board with one mod who hasn't been online in over a year and another who hasn't in almost a month. I have a run pending but I would also like to clean up the board so that it aligns with the original game on PS1 (so that they have the same category names etc.) as I'll be running the game in an online marathon in a few weeks.

glitched or glitchless? if it's the glitchless route I wouldn't recommend that skip when you're starting out, but Footi would be the best one to explain it I tried to learn it a while back and only got it right a few times and it doesn't save that much time

Board’s looking much cleaner this way ?

Getting rid of NG+ on the main board is a big yikes imo, it was the most popular for RE7 and no doubt it will be popular for this game too. Sure the boards will change around a bunch in the coming days/weeks whilst things get settled but yeah, I don’t see why that’s considered worthy of a category extension.

One very minor gripe, but why are we calling the scenarios A and B? I know that’s what they were called in the original, but it’s 1st and 2nd here no? Or just Leon/Claire and Leon 2nd/Claire 2nd

Speedrunning is meant to be somewhat of a challenge, yeah, plus the main discussion has been about the difficulty of Hardcore runs here. So I’m struggling to understand why anyone would actively choose to run the hardest difficulty with a number of possible run-ending moments (for the challenge?) but at the same time want to reduce said challenge by allowing saves and loads ‘in case something goes wrong’? Why not just run standard or NG+ in that case?

No one’s telling anyone to get good, just that there’s no point in adding segmented/RTA for people who are worried they might die mid run. That’s not what segmented is for, and it would make Hardcore a pointless category to have on the board imo.

Ah true, I know very little about 4-6 specifically. 7 has Madhouse and that's single segment, and there are (or were) plenty of runners able to finish runs without saving or loading. You'll find runners already have done single segment runs of Hardcore too, so yeah, I don't see a reason to add segmented either.

I don’t know many* Resident Evil games on this website that have segmented sections... There might be one or two somewhere for like Code Veronica Knife etc. but other than that most runs and categories are single segment due to the tracking of in-game time. It does suck that if you were to run Hardcore you could die to something stupid late on in the run and lose it, but that’s just speedrunning I’m afraid.

Nothing’s stopping you from running the game and using saves, you just wouldn’t be able to submit it here.

Costumes and soundtrack swap are fine I believe.

Another World and Out of This World are exactly the same. they're just two different regional titles of the same game (Out of This World being the US title whilst Another World was originally the European title). The boards got merged and now you can submit the retro categories to this board if you so wish.

I didn't know that the Out of This World board was still standing, but it was our intention to have the retro runs submitted here from now on so we can track all the runs in one place. This was more Brando's work than mine though. I'm not sure if we should re-title this board to include Out of This World too now that I'm thinking about it.

Yeah the slight differences between the difficulty modes are certainly interesting... I'm not too sure why they're a thing either! Brando originally thought for a second that PAL was slower than USA because he was accidentally running on easy mode haha.

With the way different strats may differ on each difficulty I think it's ultimately up to the player to decide which difficulty to run on - but good for us all to be aware that each difficulty slightly alters the speed/accuracy of the enemies/consistency of certain strats etc.

Fixed it! Regarding the No Skips run I've just left that in any% but it's obsoleted by your real any% run. Glad you're happier with the changes :)

I think sub-categories works better as it means total separation of platforms. Perhaps the filters themselves are now redundant for PC, but they still count if you’re going to choose your console on the console category. I would consider changing PS4/Xbox category to something like HD Console though considering there’s apparently a Switch version.

My other suggestion would be to only have 20th Anniversary and 15th Anniversary as sub categories. But this would mean console would compete against PC for 20th.

Edit: I'd also like to add that classic Tomb Raider arranges their boards in a similar style and to me it looks neat and organised that way, even if the filter does become semi-redundant.

Hmm. This is like a complete 180 on what I was feeling, but I am thinking if we keep no skips it might just be best to go back to calling it 100%. Still don't think it's perfect but now that we've had this discussion I kinda feel like whoever came up with 100% had a stroke of genius, lol. Still don't know about window cutscene, I'll leave that decision to you guys if you decide to go back to 100%.

Any% without skips kinda doesn't make much sense if some of the skips are as easy as you guys say they are (which I believe and can see for myself). The concept of 100% perhaps gives the category more purpose.

This thread has been an eye opener, that's for sure. Appreciate all the differences in opinion - although I wish it hadn't got so personal, we're all clearly passionate about the game.

I like the separation of all the different consoles/platforms though now even I'm questioning the existence of No Skips. Maybe now that all platforms are separate, having no skips is more redundant? I'm not sure.

I'm almost thinking 100% should make a comeback. Window cutscene just throws me off.