Pennsylvania, USAThanks for getting this information. Is it pretty safe to say that there is less than a one second difference between the two versions?
Red or Shadowman want to chime in and say what you would do as a mod?
Red has expressed interest in being a mod here, and I also think Rot-Ta (aka Shadowman) would make a great mod as well. I don't mind still being a mod, but the only thing I'll do is verify runs when time allows.
Do any of my fellow current mods have any opposition to this or want to have a discussion on the matter?
Congratulations on accomplishing your goal. There's only one TMNT player in the world with the dedication to do this category and that's you nesmaster. You will forever hold the record for having the most love for this game. That being said, I'm glad to see you retire from this category. Now keep getting that Any% time down. :-)
Update: Metronome is definitely hit or miss. A lot of room for human error. The odds that you start the timer exactly at power on and that you press start on the correct frame are not great. I still vote in favor of it being usable, but I probably won't be using it very much.
There were a lot of valid points given by everyone and I am thankful for the input on this subject.
Maybe Kavoc's "Race" version will become the main category some day and we'll all be happy. :-)
Thanks Kavoc this is awesome news!! I will check it out and report back. :-)
Ended up a little below 50% overall last night. I plan on practicing this method using the Technodrome spawn rom hack to see if I can get consistent with it. Assuming that all the data is correct and carries over to the real cart, I think this is something that we'll have to get good at timing properly and it'll produce good results. Further testing needed, but it's looking hopeful at this point.
A new category for it is also an option if it ends up being a split decision.
I agree about having a discussion.
While some may define it technically as a tool, there are other games which allow similar RNG manipulation tactics and their communities are cool with it.
I believe allowing a metronome will open the game up to more runners that steer away from this game mainly due to the Technodrome spawn. I've talked with at least a handfull of well-known runners that they gave that specific reason.
From a personal perspective having experience with it, I can say that if I use a metronome and get a desirable time, I'm not going to feel like I'm cheating. I'm probably going to feel like the game finally won't be cheating me haha.
This isn't RNG that you are able to react to, this is RNG that kills the run before it even begins and can be manipulated before the official timer starts.
In the sprit of the game and the potential to open it up to new runners, my vote goes to allowing it. It would allow the runners to be able to play the game through, every time.
I am open to whatever the community decides on this.
I can see that argument, but then would you also classify setting your livesplit timer at a negative number at power-on and then pressing start at a specific time on the timer as tool assisted?
For the metronome timer, I use tab 3.
Mode: Standard Pre-Timer: 8050
All other settings I didn't touch, but they read:
Lag: 958483 Target Frame: 1000
After testing this morning, I was able to get Technodrome spawn 3/3 times using a metronome program. I set the metronome for 8.05 and start it at power on. I'm sure there are better programs to use, but I will link the one I use.
Enjoy the feeling of confident Technodrome spawns, this game just got way less soul crushing!
https://bitbucket.org/ToastPlusOne/eontimer/downloads/
Shoutouts to the following streamers for their help with this:
https://www.twitch.tv/reanymation https://www.twitch.tv/verkk
I agree with Marth. Any% and Glitchless are main categories, others are Misc'd. The only other main category I could think of is Wrong Warp if a beneficial one is ever discovered. Which is going to be debuted after I get sub 17 as a special encore treat.
That new robo strat is sexy. That just added a whole new possibility to a room that already has a bunch of different options depending on health and weapon drop.
The airport strat is really cool too, I like it.
Looks like I have some training to do this week haha. Thanks for your work on this Red, you have my support!
Nesmaster, you stop and duck under the jetpack guys as late as possible and you are able to get up and walk earlier than usual and not get hit by a laser. I try it sometimes if I have enough health to take a hit if I screw it up. A great strat if one could get consistent with it. I prefer saving health to do the Kavoc boost in that section though.
You have excelled my skills Nesmaster. I think I'm going to give this category a shot some day, but I have a suggestion for the rules. To make it a true low% I think continues should not be allowed. Is this possible? I know it's borderline insane, but I'm going to try.
Of all the proposed categories, I believe Raph Only deserves to be official due to the challenge involved using the statistically worst turtle available. Would you guys want it to be an official category or should we leave it be a meme run?
We've gone too far down the turtle-hole boys! Good work everyone, I need to get on my Raph game now.
