I just want to say that I don't think it was "all negative", a few comments on here answer your question why it won't happen/hasn't happened. Single out the comments that don't add anything and look at the comments that do and you'll see very fine reasons, as it's been said, you can run a category all you want. Hell before duping on VC, we would always race and have fun with shakedown, that was never a category on the leaderboard and it didn't need to be.
If you want to justify your reasons to do LS without it being a race then idk what to say but don't disregard all the comments because you didn't get what you wanted.
from IRC, new route idea
will update if a run is indeed faster with this route.
wait a little before skipping the cutscene, when you see the cutscene restart, spam skip it and start running towards the bike. I've had it where I don't face away from the bike but a lot of the time you will face away from it.
No, I don't see the point in that, if a group of people legit want to run old any%/7 assets whatever, just run it, if there is a lot of interest, there should be a category. 7 assets has been a category before, http://www.speedrun.com/gtavc/thread/omcag it was a test to see if people ran it, no one ran it and kept doing any% so it was removed.
Making a new thread because people might not see the old one if I bump it.
http://www.speedrun.com/gta/thread/egkdw
We voted to allow memory monitoring software as long as it can be done on on paper: "2 - put "if it can be done with pen and paper, allow it" in the rules, applied to memory monitoring (so that 100% checklist and autosplitters are still fine) "
As you may know with VC, a new trick involves waiting exactly 53.5 seconds and you have 200 MS to trigger the glitch (SORRY FOR THE PIGEON ENGLISH).
I'm making this thread because I've seen in 2 chats now that the autosplitter show begin (and I assume end) the timer when you start the waiting period. I'm fairly sure this is tool assisted in every way but going by the rule we allowed, this may not be considered tool assisted.
Sure you wouldn't count on pen and paper but you could time it manually without an autosplitter, it basically raises a question if this should be allowed and if we should have a vote. Give suggestions below please.
(Sorry if I ramble in this)
Nah, B is the obvious answer, I don't know how to feel about making a new category for people who wanna do no wrong warp as well. People have been doing any% on whatever since duping was found and it hasn't changed anything then. WE have tried a new category before and it didn't work out because no one ran it.
BTW, VC racing was already dead as hell, it's completely dead now. RIP
Rumble doesn't need this kind of glitching, do you just get really unlucky all the time? This was this first time I did rumble in months, just kept hold of mouse click the whole time.
Needs a vote, I'll go with the first choice but still think there should be like "add a minute for each crash no matter which platform" I think emu probably needs more runs to judge if a crash is consistent maybe and what about DS runs, that could be a really stable version of the game. It's hard to say without testing from each version of the game. the second option is pretty unfair and third option isn't happening.
Want more opinions on the matter however.
How many grey areas is there tho? Like using cracked exe if you have the steam version of GTA3 so the cars aren't fucked.
Pointed out by Redlof, the game is unstable, he made a point that it would take around ~55 seconds to restart the game and his suggestion is that a crash should add 1 minute to the game time submitted no matter what platform submitted on.
Thoughts from active runners and mods?
I think what gael is trying to say (i hope), the mod shouldn't be on japanese version because it allows you to focus on one version which would be more open to people who aren't speedrunners as well if you wanted to make it public. If you do decide to work on it, I would suggest making it so replays are disabled so it would make the run harder and more entertaining.
Thanks for making it btw, I don't want to come across as ungrateful because I couldn't do something like this.
Is there anything in terms of difficulty that is different? GTA3 winter mod wasn't just a winter overhaul, it edited most the missions to make it way harder. What exactly without really spoiling does this offer?
For the LB, is PSP and mobile the same for 100% and DS is the only one that is different? If so I think PSP should be renamed "PSP/Mobile".
Because the game has a really good in game time, all runs will take in game time as the main method (you can still time with livesplit etc...). Some newer runners don't realise that it's easy to work out in game time without going into the stat menu and seeing when the game says you completed the game (yes it has this feature).
How to work out what your in game time is for any%:
Step 1: IGT starts when you exit the house at 6:00 (0:00)
Step 2: When you finish the game, before the game fades look at the in game clock. Whatever that is will be your in game time.
Image before screen fade
This is current WR so the timer is at 8:08.
Step 3: do the math
Start: 6:00 (0:00) End: 8:08 (2:08)
It took 2 minutes and 8 seconds to beat the game.
For any% NSG and 100%, you MUST show in game time once you finished the run in the vod.
Looks fast but you maybe do a side by side comparing with WR to show if it faster?
I would do it but that means playing VC and I really don't wanna do that.
Start time from the bridge I say and end time when you pick up Keep Your Friends Close.
Hard to say why it is happening without seeing a video, it can still despawn in the bushes tho if you move it too far up. This is the kind of position I aim for when I push the bike towards the entrances. I've had it despawn when I put it right in the far right (where the 2 red bushes are).
I recommend watching MH's tutorial
I recommend watching the WR to see how it all flows together
I recommend upgrading to the japanese version of the game
http://www.speedrun.com/gtavc/resources
"JP Version Convertor"
There are other strats that aren't in the tutorial, you can view those here
you may not want to do this strat YET because it's kinda weird, it's something you can build up to. If I missed anything, just post.