United StatesHello staff of Speedrun,
I am writing to address a very long going issue with a fellow moderator and runner of our small leader board for Blasto found at; https://www.speedrun.com/blasto#Any
I have tried to address and work out all of our issues as a community many times, and have personally talked to and tried to work out the issues with the specific party many times. I have also tried to reach out to the other moderators and runners of the community, however I have only been able to get in touch with one person (SrgtSilent, the only other active runner and he has also stated that the other mods may have him blocked but would try to reach out to them for me) who has also weighed in a good bit on the issue. Unfortunately this other runner feels that his opinions about the game are not valued, I greatly take all of his input, as well as the other runners of the communities input into the consideration. Which brings me up to why I am writing you today sadly, and the reason is I would like to request that the user https://www.speedrun.com/user/ChrissyFordYo is revoked of their super mod privileges as they have continuously abused them, and continuously made big community changes sporadically, without notice completely altering the leaderboards on many occasions.
I have tried talking to them about the accuracy of their timed runs, and tried explaining how to accurately look for the very last frame of input for end timing of RTA. To which their response apparently was this; https://www.speedrun.com/blasto/thread/v5o15/1#w2gom In my response, I simply explained how to time RTA properly for this game, and stated that we will continue to use traditional standard RTA timing as it leaves no discrepancies as for when things should be timed, also it means we don't need to completely change the history of the boards again. The issues of this user constantly changes the leaderboard, coming and going, and making big community decisions without the discussion or consent of the community has been going on for a very long time now, and they have been making a lot of changes today out of no where which is why I am addressing this now. I do not want to ruin the integrity of our boards anymore and I am starting to get very sad and desperate honestly. I had also just told them yesterday that I am going to remove my times and step down from being a super moderator because in the moment I thought it would be easier to not deal with it anymore, and a few hours later they uploaded my NG+ run (from my twitch channel) to the leaderboard without my permission almost seemingly as an effort to again stick it to me.
Whether it is personal or not, I desperately need someone else to help step in. I have started really losing hope, especially only having one other member of the community who thinks his opinion doesn't even matter and it really hurts because I just want to see the community grow, and our leaderboard continue to flourish and look beautiful. I have no idea if there is any way to reverse and undo all of her constant audits but if we could roll back the LB that would actually be amazing as well.
Sorry and thank you for your time. I really put a lot of thought and effort into this, and I really didn't want it to ever come to this but I don't think that I can get anywhere without an imitator of some sort.
EDIT: I can of course provide evidence of these claims, as well as you can check the audit log for the board and see how much the specified parties have altered.
The timing starts on first point of control of Blasto (first input) and end's upon the loss of control of Blasto (final input) which can very clearly and obviously be seen here by this yellow flash which always happens as Bosc's space ship is exploding https://imgur.com/a/QZgHbkj
You lose control of Blasto exactly one frame after this flash. As for the start, it would be after hitting start game initially, and then when the game screen loads after the black loading screen.
This is standard RTA timing, and the timing will remain this way so that there are absolutely no discrepancies in end game timing.
A very salty first completed run of the new route I have worked out, I still needa work some stuff out, mainly episode 5 but the route is so strong it still got sub hour even though I coulda sworn it was dead. I will update shortly, I think the new goal is sub 50.
You can watch the video on my twitch channel here;
About a week ago me Chrissy and Srgt agreed to allow pregame manipulation for the All Babes category, which allows us to focus more on just gathering the babes and not have to worry about setting up the warp sequence like a normal Any% run. I have recently been working very hard on a really solid route for All Babes over the past few days. There have been a few roads blocks which I spent days trying to sequence break and then find the best way to just simply over come. A few of these challenges include the babe behind the snarf in episode 12, even with the snarf stuck you cant jump over to make it to her and the platforms dont spawn until you kill the snarf. The babes ontop of the mountain that you need to hit all the switches for in episode 4, and I even had wished we could enter spire maze and do it backwards but obviously we can't make that jump. Well now we can do all of that stuff because I figured out how to bring the jetpack through the HUB with us.
Its very easy actually, all we need to do is jump and be moving around with the jetpack before hand. Then you want to keep blasto doing this, when you get in the hub be careful you don't fly into the dark blasto cut-scene because it will softlock you kinda like swim glitching into the bosc fight early. If we run out of fuel in a stage we seem to just fall endlessly, although I happened to somehow get it to void me out once, which I have on stream so I will try and investigate it more. Also I do believe there might be more ways to carry the jetpack over, but I just wanted to make this announcement of the rule change and let everyone know about the glitch and new route. I will post videos very soon
Why should the timing change? That would mean every single run would need to be retimed, ontop of the fact that basically our ruleset follows traditionally JRTA which ends timing on credits (for all games, not just this one) and with the fact that we have used this timing method for years now, and it is a very clear and easy way to time runs I don't see the need/reason as to changing the timing method but if you could perhaps elaborate more as to why you believe this change should be made it could help support the argument I suppose.
Yes emulator should be fine, just make sure to use the newest version of Bsnes with the proper core.
Also feel free to ask if you have any questions, and I will make sure rpg see lol :P
Okay, its great that you linked that because its a category extension leaderboard just as I mentioned we should use... It does make sense to only use the Lee twins for competition, since the game is a legit meme with how bad the toads are in it...
If we were to make a category extension leaderboard (one that could be displayed on the tab there in our main category's LB, it just goes underneath the full runs there) and put a bunch of empty meme categories that no one is ever going to run, I would be cool with it. I would like to note it has been 5 days since I have posted this, this being after the request for the categories, and the person who has requested them has neither responded to this topic or submitted a run and I have messaged them previously as well. (They have messaged me back, still waiting for their input)
If there was any serious type of competition, and not simply limiting yourself making it a meme/challenge run, and or even if we had even just one person who has routed it or done a run then maybe I could understand the reason for adding it... but clearly it just seems that the intent is to have free categories to get a non competitive WR in, and it looks really ugly on the leaderboards which I personally actually care about.
Not to mention all this should have been discussed prior to the change, since the leader board did in fact NOT look like this before hand, and the switch was simply made years after the split from the old lb.
Just because you haven't done a run yet before doesn't mean your input is invalid, I will admit I am probably coming off a little hostile and its most likely reflected off of the fact that I feel personally attacked and pretty upset MAINLY just because this decision was made without any prior discussion at all... I do not in anyways wish to pick a fight here... this is why I took the time to message you in the first place, so I do apologize if I am coming off much more aggressive than I mean too, but it is something I am indeed very passionate about.
EDIT: TLDR basically I don't like that it was done without discussion, I don't like that it was added without any clear interest in the categories or previous runners, I am a little upset about past stuff and dealing with a whole lot (I am sure a lot of people are) and probably sounding overly aggressive with my point of discussion and I apologize for that... I really don't mean to be a jerk I am just upset.
Okay I see where you are coming from, I wasn't aware of any of this discussion, and the main issue for me was the complete lack of communication on the subject before change.
Personally I just find the LB to look really sloppy if there are no runs, I can understand if people wanted to run a meme category for fun, I just don't think it warrants a category on the LB.
The point of speedrunning is to be both fast and competitive, where I can see the argument of doing arbitrary rule sets for fun, and I am all for that too, I don't see a run with the toads being fun at all, its certainly not fast, and thus making it a very very arbitrary category. I don't personally agree with having random meme categories on SRC so that people can have a free WR, or to stuff it there just because there could potentially be a run... and those categories usually get thrown into their own category extension LB (if we are going to compare to how other games/leader boards are) and this way it looks much more organized.
Again this is just my opinion and I don't personally call the shots, as I think no one individual should.
EDIT: I'd also like to add that I have been running and following this game for a very long time.. way before I ever submitted a time to SRC, you were not even on the LB at the time Fluffy, and you were not a mod. I brought this up to everyone so we can discuss things as a community, and it has nothing to do with the other community boards since as you have stated we are separated and our own game now... for good and obvious reasons.
Well if someone was interested in doing a specific run of their own special rule set, I don't see the problem with them doing so, just like there is a guy who does deathless run attempts of this game that I talk to.
Just because a category isn't on the SRC leaderboards doesn't mean that people cannot run it, this has always been the case for all types of gaming/speedrunning. As I had stated however, I don't like that this was done without any particular discussion anywhere once so ever, nor do I agree with these categories being here without a single run done.
If there was some type of competition then I could see it warranting a category extension, but I do not agree with adding a bunch of empty categories to the main leaderboard, especially just because there "may" be interest... No one is even discussing the game anywhere, and as such a small community I would figure working through issues like this shouldn't be too hard.
I would certainly like to hear other's opinions on the matter. As one of the few and only active runners of this game, I greatly value the appearance, and representation of our boards as well as our ability to discuss things like this. This is just my feelings, but I am really hoping to hear everyone else's.
EDIT: Also I would like to add that I understand that our game is a part of a popular series and even tho there is a NES version of the game, the two are entirely different and this is why we have a completely different leaderboard for the two. I do not in any way wish to represent the NES version (I run the SNES version for a reason, I know nothing about the NES version nor have I ever played it) nor emulate what their leaderboards do. Again, our community is so small we should be able to work things out really easily.
I see there was new categories added, I don't know who made this decision or when, but I ask that we can please have them removed at least until we have some people running the category.
Empty categories just look very sloppy, and also I really don't like calling a category "Toad%" personally, I understand that you're beating the game with the Toads, but I believe the "%" at the end of a category name should represent the percentage of competition and not just a random name applied to the run.
I don't really like the fact that this was done with absolutely zero discussion, but I am open to discussing this instant change some with whatever responsible parties.
"This is just a quick explantion on the route we currently use for top times, you can store the ball in pre and skip moon pound going to fortress and then returning both balls to enter moon with a cartwheel clip to enter boss early.
That loses a bit of time (somewhere between 16- 26 sec or something) but ultimately is a lot easier for getting consistent runs as moon clip is basically a hope and pray trick.
Anything else that anyone has questions or anything please feel free to message me, this is by no means a perfect guide, just something quickly put together during stream for people who maybe interested in learning the run."
I dropped some frames, what are you trying to call me a cheater lmao? I still have the raw vod, its actually pretty funny to see this especially since its coming from someone who doesn't run the game and just made their src account 9 days ago... I guess I can upload the vod if its a huge issue, I was planning on beating my time soon when I get a new cap anyways though
EDIT: Also being slightly offended I would like to add that if you had ever watched my stream/past runs/ or my AGDQ run of the game this year you would know I am clearly capable of preforming all the stuff and playing to that level in my PB and have no reason to cheat .
Kinda going off of what abra said, you can look up many great things. If you search EHP (Efficient Hours Played) you will find a lot of information on said things, seeing as you didn't state whether or not your question particularly pertains to speedrunning... I will also add that you could look up runs of others and see what they did to effectively get their skill requirements quickly.
On one final note, I will add that most efficient gains are, and have been for awhile now calculated through the use of alts and playing multiple characters at the same time to gain optimal EHP rates.
I would consider picking Bonk up again though, and if you are working on stuff you could feel free to post up in here, I will try to participate as much as possible.
The guy who has a time on this leader board I am pretty sure has either been inactive for quiet some time, I don't even know if he does anything in terms of Speedrunning anymore, and idk about Jeff's participation on this board truly other than verifying runs honestly.
I have considered running this game, these LB are very off-putting though ofc.
I cannot say for sure but it does seem like DK28 uses turbo for his run, he also absolutely 100% uses VC even though it wasn't uploaded as such. I have searched the comments and his video quiet a bit for answers, and have tried contacting him with no response yet (this was probably about a year ago now) so as far as defining rules go, I would say you should either do it yourself, or we should probably just restart the LB at some point some how because the integrity of the boards atm is so questionable.
We can also try contacting DK again ofc although I am not sure this will result anything other than the same as before.
