Sorry I'm pretty new to playing this game but why isn't there a high score record?

Yea but isn't that the point of speed runs? there are tons of games where there are milliseconds between runs. I don't know, I feel like a lot of people can't commit to running a 2+hour long game and this would allow more people to do/play MMSF.

I'm interested in speedrunning bosses rather than the full game. just curious why there's no leaderboard for each boss (R level maybe)

Hey coop519,

That's more or less a strategy you could use but I still think when you start getting into the sub 10.30 times you will have to use the "loss 2nd game in round 5" strat. I've achieved a few sub 11 times but never have achieved a sub 10.40 with the "loss 2nd game in round 4" strat, hence why I think the old route is superior when pushing times that low.

I believe the old route is faster, however for newer runners or just for a more consistent run I've found the new route is better. TBH I'm not good enough to make the "offical call" on it.

But if the runs were 100% perfect I believe the old route would be faster as the old route the individuals have a higher chance of hitting a fast server and that speeds up the "lose 2nd round" strat.

But for rmb0257 I'd do the old route as you got the skill to have consistent runs!

PS. for those that care,

I'm unable to do runs for the for see-able future as I've been brought back on at work and don't have the time and access to my Wii (mainly for this reason). I will be back at some point and hope to push my time down further! Until then I'm excited to see what the rest of you can accomplish! I'm happy with my time of 10.36 but fell short of getting a sub 10 (by quite a lot tbh).

I SHALL RETURN....one day

to Soy: I have no clue why there are versions or what the difference is? I just do runs on my old Wii from like 2008 or whenever they came out.

to rmb: uh oh, Time to grind!! haha It Will be cool to see you come back and see a sub 10min pro status tennis run!

also really cool to see but we have 3 new runners - at least new people who have submitted runs in the last week! hopefully, we keep seeing growth in wii tennis!

Got a 10.36 yesterday night will be uploading and submitting soon! Due to an early mess up, I had to do the old route but I do believe with some more practice the new route is superior. The run had the potential to be a 10.2x but I dropped a few points and that didn't help. Less than a minute from the WR! So close yet so far, the more I do runs the more it feels impossible to do.

Your strat worked great was my first day back and managed a 10.54 with it!!! and got a sub12 pro status in the same run! well done! I found it was way more consistent to get PB runs thank you for sharing it!

Thanks for the reply rmb0257! I'll definitely reach out if I have any more questions.

Hey, Murasaki Thank you for letting us know about that! I'll have to give that way a try when I'm able to do runs again! does seem like a much more consistent route to do runs.

Oh, I also forgot to mention that lobs aren't super useful as they are very easy for AI to return. The best way to play is to mainly use the net player hitting on sharp angles and occasionally hit it directly at the backcourt player with lots of spins as it can cause a double bounce as the AI is dumb haha

I wanna start running Pro Status Tennis but can't until I get back to my Wii which is still 5-6 days away :((

Hey Kazii, I'd recommend watching the current WR's run he pretty much has a perfect run! and is a great example of how to deal with the return of serve early on. However, in the first 4 rounds, you could in theory win all return of serve points without rallies by hitting the return early creating a sharp enough angle. Usually, the first 3 rounds are super simple to do so and can save a ton of time early on (as long as RNG is good and they don't hit a fast serve). The strat stays the same throughout rounds 4,5 and 6 but the AI is faster so they usually get to the ball. This then opens up the court for either a ball back at them or a sharp cross-court (net player always).

was gonna point you to my forum post but just saw you commented there ahaha. feel free to reach out on discord or PM (or through the forum post) if you want more info!

Hey everyone!

Just another update for those that are following this forum. Been playing with some new strats and managed to get a 10.57 w/o a video and an 11.03 with a video. won't submit until I have a 10.4x or lower as that will put me below 1min away from the WR! The new strat was as follows: R1 - 3/5 R2 - 3/5 R3 - 3/5 R4 - 2/3 *lose second game R5 - 2/3 *lose second game R6 - 1 game R7 - champions I've had a few very good runs with this method however I do not think it's as time-efficient as the current way of doing things. My skills are super polished yet so maybe with practice, this could become a superior way of doing things. But I've found that it's allowed me to get better PB-paced runs because of the shorter duration of playing in round 4/5. there may even be a way to get the champions on round 6 but I still need to play around with everything and see.

On a different note, I haven't been able to play for about 4 days now and won't be able to do runs for another 7-10 days due to no access to my Wii. This sucks but once I'm back I will have a 10.4x run to post/submit! Mark my words! And then it is just about polishing my runs up and working my way down to the end game. I hope to provide some challenge and make the WR holder return as I want to see him push both Tennis WR's down further!

Edit: Once I get a 10.4X I'm gonna take a week or two breaks from the "beat the champ" category and run "Pro status" as I think I can bring some new competitiveness there as well! My best time there is a 15.5x but that was when I first started running and I've improved a ton

Update! I may have figured out a new "lose" strat to make the Round 4&5 opponents easier! one of the things i struggle with the most is shutting down long rallies (once they have started) with rounds 4 and 5 (assuming you lose no points getting to them). I was under the impression you had to get at least 850 (or more) points to vs the champions in the 6th round. however, this is not the case! I just beat the champs with only 843 points! I also VS much easier round 4 and 5 matchups. maybe I was just playing better (something ill test over the coming week) or maybe it's better to lose a few points in round 2 or 3 to get easier matchups while still being able to go up against the champs due to the Round 5-2nd game lose strat. This may allow for more successful runs and help at least make it easier to push past the crazy AI in rounds 4&5. This is just a theory and might just use more time than it's worth but it's something I'm going to attempt and see.

Time updates: Managed an 11:23.56 earlier today (no video) and then just managed an 11.20 and got it on video! will be submitting it later tonight!

1st ->The main strats I know is the losing 2nd game in round 5 which will boost you to 850+ in points and allow you to challenge the champ(s) in round 6. 2nd ->Obviously, there are the angle spin shots after the opponent's server that Rounds 1-3 cant return which can shave a bunch of time off if you can go all 12points in that fashion. 3rd ->I was curious if anyone knows if there's a specific way to move the remote to cause the first 1-2round opponents to miss the fast server altogether. I've found sometimes I can get them to miss the fast server 4+ times but other times they return the ball back into the court. 4th ->Net Spin shot: sometimes you can hit the ball at the net and it will double bounce before the opponent can hit it. I'm curious if there is a more sustainable way to hit the ball in this manner as it can shut a ton of rallies down before they start especially later rounds (4-ish,5,6).

Thank you to everyone that's read the forum!

Edit: net spin shot: I'm aware that rotating the controller can cause more topspin or backspin depending. What I'm curious to look into is to see if the way you hold and rotate the control has an effect on if the opponents can return the ball or let it bounce in front of them. If this does not matter then we can start to look at positioning of the player and opponent and see if that has something to do with it.

Hello everyone, I'm pretty new to the whole speedrunning thing. I used to play a ton of Wii Tennis so decided to look up if anyone was doing it. Well, the record was 9.56 by rmb0257. which at first I didn't think much of it until I did my first few runs which clocked in between 13-16mins. After getting my ego checked and reviewing his run(s) I tried again and got a 12.55 which is 3minutes off the WR! Since then I've managed to get an 11.55.98, however, I wanted to try and get that down to sub11 in the next few weeks. Decided to get a forum up and running to talk RNG, strats, etc. to try and help anyone and everyone make a push close to the WR set by rmb0257 nearly 6months ago. It hypothetically is possible to go lower than the 9.56 he set but is going to be a long haul. I and SoyhoiBoy have been battling back and forth for 2nd place so hopefully we can help each other out and get closer to the WR.