I'd also be down with running the other streamers as well as maybe some of the other category ideas, All Toads and Bobby Death% come to mind

I agree that they should, but currently we don't have an agreed upon time to start the run. Red Streamer was obvious in it's start time being File Select since that's how every other RTA run starts anyways, plus there were already runs on just doing Red Streamer since it's only an hour compared to Any%'s 7 hours at least. Meanwhile none of the other streamers have recorded runs and when to start is ambiguous since to include Any% runs for easy category submissions, File Select is off the table entirely, plus each attempt has to be played up to individually before doing the run since there's no in-game way to copy save files.

For timing methods for the start I think First Input after the save after the streamer clear is universal and easy enough to worth considering, meanwhile other ideas have been entering the tram for Blue, setting sail with Bobby for the 1st time for Yellow, setting sail with T.ode for the 1st time for Purple, entering the pillar of light for Green and entering the Airship for the King Olly stretch. All are accompanied by an autosave so I assume it's 1st frame of fade in, but no runs have been done of the other streamers and it was last mentioned months ago on another Forum.

I feel like if we want to emphasize that streamer IL's could be done from a full run, then it should probably be 1st input after the autosave that takes place after the chapter ends so that any Streamer IL attempts with dedicated save files don't have to go an instance back to the previous boss to start the timer at the end of the confetti upgrade animation or the actual save from there

I feel like editing all the separate boss fights under one RTA timer would be harder to edit and would question the legitimacy of if they were all done consistently one after another or the best fights over multiple attempts, adding all the separate Bossatronic times together from one uncut video is the best option

Boss IL's aren't really my thing, but I do feel like having a sum of each consecutive Boss IL would be a lot better than timing the full run with the transitions put in for that meta reason. And with that I don't think adding King Olly as an IL for the Boss Rush would make a lot of sense since with this since that has to be run with a timer running independent of the game instead of the Game's Bossatronic timer, so then it'd add more complexity to the timing process of adding up all the different in-game times for all of the Bosses and then walking out of the Bossatronic to King Olly, setting up an external timer, timing the start and end of King Olly and adding that up, where I think it'd just be better to just do the bosses already in the Bossatronic, plus for the in-game timer to be so specific and precise adding an RTA element where the run will probably need to be retimed and thus the total is off just wouldn't work well for the category imo, even if we're going to stay in the total time taken with scrolling especially since then it'd also include optimal movement to King Olly which for a Boss Rush category seems dumb imo

didn't see the past 2 posts while writing this lmao, even if you're excluding that wouldn't really fix the problems with the RTA timed King Olly likely not being as precise as the other IGT Bosses

I feel like 100% IL's are arbitrary af and shouldn't be on the boards, mainly with stuff like the Homeowner Toad that (I think) counts for Picnic Road, but you can't get until Chapter 4, so for Chapter 1 100% IL would you have to go all the way to Chapter 4 and then come back with 100% completion on Chapter 1? Or if it's just completing everything you can in a given chapter for 100% more distinction has to be made on that imo

If any new categories are added then I'd vouch the hardest for Red Streamer% due to reasons already said in this thread (Ease of Access in preparation and time commitment, differentiation from Any% with Overlook Tower Early, etc.) it's what got me to run this game before trying an Any% run and even with the tutorials I still find it to be enjoyable.

For the other streamer IL's I feel it can be a bit tricky to define when it starts. If I had to choose I'd probably say the first input after the autosave that occurs after clearing a streamer, or the A press for selecting the file that has said autosave, it's arbitrary by nature but I'll probably start there for Streamer IL's just so it can be retimed if an alternate timing method is adopted. Although that said I feel like they have massive potential with you can set it up however you like (with the detriment of having to set that up without being able to copy files over) which can lead to some good routing for those categories, though having to set that up from the beginning of the game to there for each streamer IL if they're ever going to get more optimized from the lowered time commitment per run than other RTA categories, then I find that unlikely and a good case as to why it wouldn't be run often

I like the idea Boss Rush as a category, nothing much more to say about it other than I wouldn't run it due to not running Boss IL's much other than to practice Any% strats which are typically slower but more consistent, also I would find it hard to work around the meta where getting a new record on your own leaderboard would lose time from an autosave as a meta

I'm not too sure on this, but idk if you would count All Toads as a "Full Run" category since there doesn't seem to be any Toads saved Post-Green Streamer and only 1 in Green Streamer, so if you don't have to progress the story past the last toad saved in Green Streamer to get the Toad Trophy then it'd just be optimal to stop mid-green streamer and go back to Toad Town to finish the run out. Just wanted to throw that out there but I like the idea of All Toads regardless lmao

Bobby Death% is probably the weakest of these imo, since I feel like it's just Any% lite, but I'd be open to it as a more accessible way to get into Any% without having to commit more consecutive hours just to get a run on the leaderboards. Now if we were to eventually find a way to bring Bobby to the end of the game with in-game means, then I'd vouch for a True Bobby Run where Bobby's with you until the very end of the game or whatever that entails

I'll probably try these out (excluding Boss Rush and Bobby Death% most likely) when I can after finals week in college and possibly more ideas if y'all can think of any