PolandAnnouncement #10
I would like to inform about my resignation from moderating this game. It was very entertaining to both play Moy's World casually and to speedrun it. I had a lot of fun with interacting with everyone as a moderator and a fellow speedrunner. Moy's World was my first game requested to be added to speedrun.com (and it was eventually added to the database), that's why it will have a special place in my speedrunner's heart, hehe.
I entrust moderating the game to @felipereis11011 , who has been promoted to the Super Moderator. He is the only person I know that is capable of moderating this game well. He knows this game and is professional as a moderator whether it comes to check and retime runs, or to simply interact with others.
I wish good luck for everyone! :)
Hmm... I don't think it might be good to put a category like that on the main leaderboard, but perhaps Category Extensions would be more proper? :-)
Due to the fact that Google Hot Air Balloon works differently on different devices, which might cause the game running either faster or slower, depending on the display sieze of a device (for more informations please read the previous announcement written by me about this issue), and due to the recent activity of cheaters submitting either stolen or sped up runs (or both), the moderator team has decided the following: category dedicated to reaching 1,000 points as fast as it is possible was turned into a Misc. category. Because of the fact that this game might work differently on different devices, as was mentioned above, it is almost impossible (especially when there is no audio in this game) to be 100% sure that a submitted run was not cheated by being sped up by the cheater.
Therefore, to avoid any situation with verifying runs that should not have been verified in the future, the best solution for it was to turn "1,000" category into a Misc. category. By that all runs will be preserved and new runs might still be submitted, but like was written before - the differences between speed on different devices are too high to consider this category as a competetive one with that (1,000) amount of points, especially when many players with bigger diagonal displays of their devices might find it unfair that their time can be reached without much effort on way smaller devices, just because the game runs faster on the latter type of devices. If we add to it the fact that it's almost impossible to tell whether a run was cheated, especially in a category with the shortest runs from all speedrunning categories availble, then it would be unwise to keep 1,000 points as a main category.
The leaderboards were also reorganized. Now there is one main category called "Points" and almost all former speedrunning categories became its subcategories. All except former "1,000", which was renamed to "1,000 Points" and moved to Miscellaneous categories.
All speedrunners who had their times on former "1,000" are going to be informed via private messages about the recent change.
Fortunately, everything ended positively. While the proof was no longer availble, since the run had been deleted, I managed to recreate that entry with the informations appearing in Audit Log and... by searching for this run on Google. I remember it had exactly the same time (I used to check the leaderboards of the game I'm talking about months before I started moderating it), but I just wanted to be assured about it and check miliseconds (I remembered only minutes and seconds, since it was a World Record run, but not miliseconds, unfortunately).
I was really surprised that the entry of it was still visible on Google search engine, even though the run had been deleted and that the link to it did not have the informations displayed in the entry on the list of results after searching up this run on Google. :D
I respect the decision of a speedrunner to delete the run, however it was a World Record that was once verified and appeared on the leaderboards. Having it not being even mentioned as a historical entry would be harmful for the leaderboard, if you ask me. That's why I sent a private message to the speedrunner, explaining the whole situation and saying that if they want me to delete the entry even as a historical entry, then I will do it of course.
Anyway, thank you for your help! I'm glad that everything ended up with a happy ending, hehe. :)
Announcement #9
Few changes have been made on the leaderboards, thanks to @felipereis11011 discovery. The changes are as following:
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since it is impossible to gather three stars on IL 3-5 (there are only two stars to be collected), Stars% category for this level have been modified to allow players to submit IL runs for this specified level for Stars% category after gathering only two stars. The amount of stars to be collected during full-game run for World 3's Stars% category has been decreased by one star as well;
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Individual Level 3-7 received two exclusive subcategories due to the fact that @felipereis11011 discovered a shortcut allowing players to go "out of bonds" and shorten a way for a star significantly, which is helpful on Stars% and 100% categories. Therefore two new subcategories were added exclusively for this level's Stars% and 100% categories, which are: "No Out of Bonds" (OoB is not allowed), and "Unrestricted" (OoB is allowed).
The rules were modified accordingly to the changes that had been implemented.
I'm happy to inform that the head start boost has been banned from the following categories: "High Score"; "Points"; "Clones (High Score)". :)
Hello. Recently the moderator team of one game I am moderator of have done a reorganization of the leaderboards. After it, however, while moving all runs to different category, one of them that was former World Record disappeared.
I checked what could've happened and it appears that the run was deleted. No of us, moderators, deleted any runs, so the user must've deleted it some time ago, but even yesterday I remember it appearing on the leaderboard.
Is it possible to somehow know the time which was submitted by the speedrunner? Audit Log is not helpful enough, because apart from being a proof that this kind of run actually existed, the link that was attached to that run doesn't work anymore.
My point is that it would be cool to include this result as a historical entry.
Starting from 27th March 2021, a great reorganization of the leaderboards has taken action. The main purpose of it was to make Happy Jump's leaderboards to have more speedrun-related elements, because before there were not any of them. Second thing was to double check every verified run due to a little bit too chaotic and unclear method that had been used in the past.
Thanks to @RENI, several new speedrunning categories were created. They are called as "Points" and "Death". The former has also five speedrunning subcategories (1,000; 5,000; 10,000; 20,000; 50,000 points). The rules for the categories mentioned above has been already created, including updating the section of "Game Rules" that was previously empty, unfortunately.
High Score leaderboard has been reformed as well. All previously verified runs (I mean, those that were verified before 26th march 2021, including this day) from the old "High Score" leaderboard dedicated to Happy Jump, and "Ice Cream Jump" dedicated to its clone, have been double-checked. I have noticed that many runs no longer have any source availble to be a proof showing clearly the time that was reached by a speedrunners, however as long as they are not deleted as runs, they are going to stay on the leaderboard, since they were once verified in the past.
Speaking of clones, a separate Misc. category was created for the highscore runs of two clones of Happy Jump, which are: Ice Cream Jump and Happy Poo Jump.
If you have any other suggestions, opinions or objections regarding the recent huge reorganization of Happy Jump's leaderboard, feel free to write them below this post or just by contacting one of the moderators.
I think it wouldn't be bad to prohibit using the boost you are talking about in the rules. Just like you said, it makes scores that were achieved without it look like hmm... maybe not pointless, but not significant, since by using that boost you can basically start your run with having a score way higher than "0 points".
I would suggest prohibiting it for all runs submitted after the rules (after adding the fragment not allowing to use the headstart boost in the run). It will be fair for everyone, both new players on the leaderboard and those who had already submitted their runs in the past, sometimes even several years ago.
Other bonuses should be allowed, though. No need to split the category for "No boosts" and "Unrestricted" as well, because other bonuses don't make that much of a difference, even though they are indeed helpful.
Yeah, just updating the game should be enough to unlock Dwarf Caves (World 4).
Rules of the game have been slightly modified, making them more clear and detailed without changing the basic principles of each category or Main Rules in general.
The moderator team has recently discovered that Google Hot Air Balloon works differently on different devices, making the whole gameplay look either faster or slower. After analyzing the situation and after contacting most of players who have submitted a run to this game, the moderator team has noticed that the speed of the game indeed vary on different devices.
We have tried to find out what was the reason behind this issue, and the most possible thing that might've been responsible for this issue happened to be the display size of a device. We are not 100% sure if this is the true source of this problem, however we have compared a lot of runs and analyzed them with informations provided by many players who played this game before (huge thanks to them!), and there was only one common thing among every comparison: the smaller display size was, the faster this game worked like.
The hardest thing, though, was finding out what will be the best solution to that situation. We have discussed a lot of possibilities and in the end we have decided, however that might not satisfy a lot of you, to leave the leaderboard as it is, but with adding a variable that would show the display size (diagonal size) of a device on which this game was played on.
We think of it as the optimal solution to this problem. Every other solution required to include more or less arbitrary factors, such as i.e. dividing runs into two groups with smaller and bigger display sizes, however many problems have appeared later, such as where should've been the border of display sizes for "faster" and "slower" runs.
Therefore, a new variable has been added. It is called "Display size". Starting from 4th March 2021, it is mandatory to write the display size of the device used during the run to play this game.
I have filled the "Display size" field on the pages of runs of players who shared informations about their devices on which they played this game. Those who have not responded to my message will have this field empty ("-").
Game rules have been modified accordingly.
This thread is dedicated to discussing about the new method of retiming runs that is going to take effect after 21st February 2021.
Feel free to ask any questions.
Announcement #8
A huge change in the method of retiming all runs, which means both Full-game runs and Individual Levels (ILs).
After discussing the matter for several days and analyzing different ideas on how to improve the method of timing runs, the moderator team ( @Kochen and @felipereis11011 ) has come into a conclusion that the change is needed and there is actually a better method: more clear and possibly more fair, since many fine runs had to be rejected only because the first frame of movement was not visible. It was not that matter of not following the rules, at least not mostly, but rather just using the game's mechanics. They allow to take control of Moy after the first visible frame (the one that's lightened up) appears.
The first frame counted in the process of retiming runs will be the first lightened up frame after pitch black screen (appearing after starting a new game or restarting it) starts to lighten up. It is commonly called as "the first visible frame". The last frame remains unchanged in both categories.
We have also decided to not to retime the runs submitted before the new method had taken effect. The differences in general between starting retiming a run from "the first frame of movement" and "the first visible frame" are minimal and are on the verge of statistical error, however retiming old runs with clearly visible first frame of movement with the new method could've led to have new times being even several seconds worse than initially. All because of waiting for a while to have the first frame of movement clearly visible. It was an encouraged and preferred way of starting a run when "the first frame of movement" rule was on, however if old runs were retimed with the new method, it would be greately unfair for them to have worse times only because the first frame has changed in the rules. Especially when the difference, as was mentioned before, between starting a run right after the level has loaded and starting it on the first frame of Moy's movement, is on the verge of being treated more as statistical error than actual difference.
All runs that have been submitted before or on 21 February 2021, were retimed in accordance with the old method in which the first frame of a run was the frame clearly showing Moy's first movement from the starting position. The last frame of a run has not been changed in the new method and is the same for both methods.
Rules have been already updated; same goes with the old guide that has been archived.
If you have any doubts or questions, feel free to discuss them on the dedicated thread: https://www.speedrun.com/moys_world/thread/8jlrh , or just send a message to one of moderators of this game's page on Speedrun.com
After receiving various suggestions about changing the name of "All Collectibles" category and after discussing this topic with speedrunners, the moderators team has decided to rename "All Collectibles" into "All Collectables".
A new Miscellaneous speedrun category has been added: All Collectibles.
It is the first category belonging to group of Miscallaneous categories.
For more details about this category, please read its rules.
I sticked and locked the thread. It will look better that way, in my opinion.
As of 2nd February 2021, a new conversion factor is used to convert gathered points into the valoue appearin in the time section, which is 1000 points = 1 milisecond. Because of that, all already verified and pending runs has been edited accordingly to it.
The change has been already added to the rules of Highscores category. Each already verified or pending run (submitted before the change) has received a proper information about the change.
