Congrats

Ayyy god job brother

It's the new strat. you can jump past the dagger a little bit and get the area around it to load. you reload after the area is loaded and you get all the abilities

Good run

It's entirely optional yes!

Really impressive run! You should use the new dagger strat you'll get a sub 3:40 easily!!!

All categories excluding any% are done on the current patch.

There's also a speedrunning only one

A while back we had a few runs (including my own) where the runners purposefully screen-walked to get closer to the hook but started time only after the first cutscene (this violates the rules as it says "timer should start when you first move your character, including if you screen walked before the first cutscene).

Now considering the fact these runs shouldn't have been verified in the first place, due to rule violations they still managed to get verified. We thought of a compromising variant where we retimed the runs giving them each roughly 10 seconds more.

While that is somewhat of a decent alternative, we agreed that we won't be re-timing future runs and we will reject them and this is a one-time pass. So this is unfair to future runners or current runners submitting runs after.

With this said, let me get to the point of why this forum discussion is even being posted. I want those runs that are like that to be removed from the leaderboard as the rules are the rules. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get most of the moderators to even answer so I wanted to ask the community's opinion.

Now I do have to say. If this change was to happen I would have the any% wr record. As I'm the only one of the 3 runners who violated the rules but has submitted a new run that complies with them. I'm honestly biased hence why I want the word of the other moderators an the community. I think even being biased this is a pretty fair judgement, and I'm not just asking "plz gib any% world record".

Please leave your opinion on the matter as it's important we get as much opinions as possible.

It is in the "Getting started with speedrunning guide"

Okay I looked at the run pretty thoroughly and It doesn't seem like there is a splice, the robot he knocked that went on the wall is still there, you can also see his ability refresh as he is doing that snappy input playing frame by frame in the youtube player also allows you to see that he doesn't snap there's a very small and (but visible when looking frame by frame) movement he is doing

what splice? there is not splice at 5:58 on his time or the video timeline

We've been looking at possible ways to down patch the game and potentially play on that old patch, but I think if it's impossible we'll just clean the leaderboards

Hello,

The new patch has been out for a few days, and I wanted to get the runners' thoughts. If you haven't played the changes that affect the run are:

• Cheemburger skip has been fixed, i.e. the wall has been moved so you can no longer go out of bounds before combat 3

• Tower climb has been made significantly slower because of the way wall run works now.

These changes are significant as both slow all of our categories down. For any% this is a big deal because getting a sub 4 is now significantly harder than before, and might even be impossible because the only consistent way I've found to ascend the tower takes around 40s-1m. Because of this, I was wondering what should we do with the leaderboard for any% since there are significantly more runs of the any% category, than there is of any other. I was thinking of maybe clearing the leaderboards, as we currently have no way of down-patching the game, but also that is quite unfair to the runners who worked very hard to get their times, such as myself, Laggy, Bulthorpe, and anyone else. Please leave your thoughts in this forum and help me and the mod team make an executive decision

Because of this, will there be a consideration for a Restricted/Glitchless/NMG category or something similar?

Yes, there is a 100% glitchless and any % glitchless, out-of-bounds (OOB) is allowed in both categories but there's a lot more gameplay in bounds even with the OOB being allowed

Because we are yet to implement the new timer rules, I have retimed your run and will allow it, please refer to the new rules, and start timer correctly for future runs, such. Future runs like this will be rejected

I see no problem with your request

Hey there!

Not much has changed, the only major thing that will affect categories is the removal of cheemburger skip after watergate skip. Also It seems that maybe the last section of the game where you climb tower might be a little different

I mean to write 7:29

I don't think you can pick up hook from it, for the stone I'm 100% sure you can't cause there's a wall that stops you from falling on top of the stone so you can't pick that up, I'll try hook and film