Damn, he found the skip I hadn't published yet. well done.

Hell yeah, great run. I'm excited to work on those new skips!

Solid run!

For the sake of the Fan to Ursa run, it should probably be mentioned it's Checkmark to Checkmark. That start time can be a bit ambiguous.

And similarly, the category rules for hab to Ursa be First input to Checkmark.

Thanks for the split!

For Hab to Ursa, is there still the -5 seconds from bed? It can probably be done away with thanks to the split, but wanted to doublecheck as I probably need to retime a run or two of mine.

The escape route has changed slightly for 3.20 with the initial drop, the two vaulting block sections, changes to climbing/vaulting, and a shortcut is now unusable due to changes in low grav movement. We'll need a new split.

I think forcing a server hop for every run would be HIGHLY detrimental to the already low number of people attempting to run this.

The little bit of memorization really doesn't add that much skill. We're not talking about memorizing nuclear codes, it's 4 digits you have to keep in mind for at most 40 seconds. To keep with your ruleset and not force the server hop (assuming you are actually able to get into a new shard), just state in the ruleset that you require the numbers to be seen, which would mitigate the potential to skirt the rules to save time.

But again, I stand by the clean Fan Code Checkmark to Ursa code Checkmark. There's only 3 elements that really diversify run attempts for this section: spawn location, how far from the terminal to see the code (you can see it from the corner of the railing, but the speed it takes for the screen to appear is also fairly dependent on server health and the runner's PC specs), and the few jumps to the fan. Removing the spawn location RNG is worth trading for the skill of like 3 jumps. And there is a godspawn where you can hop from 2F of habs to the top of the work mine cage to save a few more seconds. It'll clean up both the issue of skipping the code exploiting current rules, and makes for a very clean button press to start timer (and gives an audio cue for judging the run's start and stop).

But with all that said, I won't keep pressing the point.

• On the checkmark for the Rover? Sounds good. I was going strictly off what was said in this forum earlier. Since the category rules were updated since your first reply to me, I missed it.

• My question on memorizing the code involves backspacing early (as if it were a previous run) so that you don't end up heading down to the work mine hallway for the code at all on the subsequent run. It would still fall under your current rules of starting from bed/ hab door, but you already have the fan code (for a short time before it changes again). Your rules (as far as I could tell) didn't say you couldn't pre-memorize the codes. However, this backspacing early would start filling up that area with bodies leading to degradation in server health.

Is it legal to memorize the codes before making a run attempt before the code changes? The Ursa code will stay the same so a runner would be able to shave off a few seconds there, and the fan code stays long enough for a respawn saving a good 20 seconds. Again, this is partly the reason we think it makes more sense to do code to code as opposed to clogging the work mine hallway with bodies (and hurting the server's performance) by forcing respawn. And for the end time its a little vague, @caeserip would it require code to be entered? Or just on first button press?

With bed rubberbanding? PES has made this run (among many other things) excessively buggy, like the delay for the fan code popping up on screen.

I have a handful of guys (a Klescher org) all competing on this run using this code to code. To us, it makes the most sense for timing. For instance the location of your bed spawning hurting time. I don't disagree that there's time to save there, but makes attempts more consistent.

Different ruleset for this run with 3.18+ Ursas not spawning. Fan checkmark to Ursa checkmark.

Since Ursas have been not spawning correctly since 3.18, can we get another patch split and set the start/end time rules to using the keypads? Make it so you start when you press the checkmark on the fan to checkmark on the garage.