Having an issue - is there a way to outright delete archived categories/variables? For some reason, people can still submit to them even though they're archived!

We don't know when this will be used, please be patient :)

Hey everyone!

We want to try and be transparent with our progress when it comes to developing rules for the SRC leaderboards.

We’ve got a draft set of game and any% rules that we’d like to share. If you feel anything needs amending/changing/rewording, please let us know via the suggestions page in our Discord.

Game Rules

RTA timing is used. This means all runs must be done in one sitting, and the timer cannot be paused at any point.

All runs require video proof (with audio) showing the entire run from start to finish.

The use of online features is banned.

The postcard and date following each level must be visible.

All runs must be performed on an official Super Mario Bros. Wonder release, without the use of any modifications. Emulators are banned.

Any%

Beat the game as fast as possible.

Timing starts when selecting 'OK' on the character select screen upon opening a new file.

Timing ends on the final hit of Bowser in 'Bowser's Rage Stage'.

Runs must be completed in single player mode with online functionality disabled.

yoshi/nabbit rules, and the possibility of a split, are still being discussed and rules surrounding their use may change.

Copy pasting this from the Discord for transparency;

We also have been getting a lot of questions pertaining to the leaderboards opening, to which I can confirm our current aim is to open the leaderboards on Friday, the 27th of October, we're hoping for at least Any% and 100% when they are first set up. We will do our best to communicate any delays or complications, as next Friday is just a goal since we have yet to know what the game has to offer. Thanks for understanding, we are all so excited!

In smo physical loses ~11 seconds. Its still annoying, but its not awful

We haven't decided on rulesets yet - that will come after the game launch. However, emulators will likely be banned, at least to begin with.

they're just not used, no real answer really. If there's ever a tie to the second, it could be used to break the tie.

https://discord.gg/kxjxDKu4QX

runs can take longer than one week to be verified. If you haven't heard anything about it, it's still in the queue.

i'd recommend joining the smo discord and getting help for specific issues there, its a community that can help loads. https://discord.gg/smospeedruns

If discord isn't an option for you, then the best I can really offer is Tomshi's beginner tutorial series. This will give you a comprehensive guide on what to do when, https://tinyurl.com/TomHatedHowLongTheLinkWasSmile

Best of luck :)

you know its been added now right haha

its a discussion that takes place between the entire verification/moderator team, as well as taking into account community interest.

no because it would be hard to moderate (not everyone has a facecam and also it would be hard to verify if the facecam is consistent with the gameplay). Plus 'any% but' runs are generally less accepted

afaik the trick is impossible on 1.3. Might be wrong though

You need to download asl-help (linked) and place it in your livesplit installation folder under Components.

Load the script by adding a "Scriptable Autosplitter" component to your layout, then point the path to the shakevssnake.asl file you downloaded from this message https://github.com/LiveSplit/LiveSplit.AutoSplitters/pull/1205

timing will now start from once you gain control of the snake (after go has disappeared on the first level)

old runs will be grandfathered into this rule change. rules will be changed to reflect this

don't do platform clip with that time. it only saves 3/4 optimally

go ahead and try die the exact moment topper is defeated, let me know once you've done that.

TLDR before my whole essay, I am sick of people suggesting categories on the forums. It is an annoying, useless and incorrect practice. Things need to change.

EDIT: There is now a forum on the SMO discord for suggesting new categories. Go here to suggest your categories please. http://www.discord.gg/smospeedruns

I need to preface this by saying that, although I am a verifier for both the CE and Main Board leaderboards for Super Mario Odyssey, this post comes from a non-affiliated position. My views don't necessarily reflect those on the verifying/moderator team and I'm speaking purely for myself.

I need to also mention that I am certain this post will fall on deaf ears and not reach the people who need to read it. Regardless, I want to make this thread to express my thoughts.

I am genuinely disappointed at the state of these forums. I'm not sure what the forums should be, but I can confidently say what they shouldn't be. They should NOT be a place for people do go 'new category idea' and then spew out the worst possible thing you can think of. I don't think anyone expects the forums to be perfect, but every other day there is a new post suggesting 'any% but with x thing not being allowed' and its getting tiring.

There are a few things I want people to take away from this post:

1. What people need to understand, is that these forums are not, and as far as I know, have never been the place to suggest new category ideas. I don't think the ideas being suggested here are good, but even if they are, this is not the correct format to suggest them. That responsibility lies on the google form that you can find here https://www.speedrun.com/smoce/thread/ze0h9 . Any suggestion, good or bad, will not be accepted or even considered until it is placed on that document, so suggesting them through the forums is a waste of time. If you want to talk about the idea of a category before submitting it, the discord is a far more appropriate place to do so. There are more active community members to see your suggestion, and it doesn't come at the expense of clogging up the forums with useless unnecessary posts.

2. The categories you are suggesting are not fun. Listen, I'm not a fan of a lot of the CE categories. I somewhat famously hate 124 moons for example. If it were up to me, that category wouldn't exist. But in defense (for once) of that category, it still has an original idea that is more unique than just 'any% but x modification'. Some categories on the leaderboard still currently fall under that umbrella, like minimum captures, but the difference is they are categories that have some form of interest, and that have some FUN twist. A category like 'no teleports' does not have this. It is the same old any% but with extra backtracking and unfun movement. A category like 'hint toad%' is similar to talkatoo%, but with added literal hours of coin grinding to buy hints. If you're unsure on if your suggested category meets the 'is this fun' requirement, play it yourself. Come back to me and let me know if you enjoyed not being able to teleport or the hours spent coin grinding.

3. This is a bit of a personal gripe, but the notifications are insane for forums. As a verifier, I already have a large amount of notifications a day from people submitting runs. But as it turns out, half of the notifications I get are from people making a new post of 'New category idea: Beat the game while doing a handstand irl!'. It's not fun. I've tried to make light of this by responding to each thread, but its clear that isn't of any use. If anything it just sparks more notifications. I don't mind the numbers next to the bell, but it is annoying when they amount to nothing. If you're submitting a post to the forums, you need to be conscious that everyone who has notifications on for the game your posting to will see what you've posted. There's no need for all these people to see 'any% but..'.

I know this is longwinded, but here's my takeaway from this. If you want to suggest a new category, this is the process;

• If you want to suggest it or get thoughts, join the discord and talk about it in #category-extensions . The discord can be found here: http://www.discord.gg/smospeedruns
• Then if you want to make this category a reality, record yourself doing a run of it, and submit it to the google docs that I've mentioned above. That is, and will from now until forever, be the only way to suggest a category and have it be taken somewhat seriously.

Regarding all the replies to posts submitted here too, while I have contributed to this, it needs to stop. I don't think replying to these suggestions with longwinded reasoning/jokes is doing any good anymore. A simple response linking either this thread or techs ( https://www.speedrun.com/smoce/thread/ze0h9 ) will do a lot more good. I myself need to take this advice as well.

I know this is a long post. But I'm tired. Please just use your head before using the forums. Thanks for reading all this if you have.

dude do this in the doc cmon