CanadaHi everyone, I'm just documenting an edge case where you die at the end of BCP after killing the last animal. This happened in a run that was submitted, so it raises the question of if the run is completed.
My ruling is that the run is valid. For reasons discussed below. I am, in fact, supreme dictator of the SSSV speedrunning community and my word is law, so I don't care what you have to say about it. However, if you want to discuss it here or in the discord or wherever, that's fine.
When you die at the end of a level, you still complete the level. This can be reproduced easily in Swamp of Eternal Stench by walking the gorilla into the teleporter tree stump before gorilla jumping to the teleporter as Evo. Evo lands on the teleporter, completing the level, and takes fall damage, resulting in a death. When the level ends, Dan cries like you lost the level, but the level is marked as complete and you move on to the next level just as you would normally. So level completion apparently trumps death. Furthermore, the runner reported that re-entering BCP caused it to play out like it had been completed: with a "best time" displayed. For these reasons, I believe the level was completed and therefore the run was completed.
The runner deleted the file to start another run and could not confirm that the file select screen read "zones secured: 31", but I strongly suspect that it would have said 31 and not 30. This would be the ultimate proof but I don't think that's really necessary and I don't feel like trying to reproduce the thing because I'm lazy. Deal with it.
A fun side effect of the BCP death-completion is that apparently the game crashes instead of running the credits. The runner also reported that the game started freezing on Smashing Start, so maybe it broke the runner's cart too. Hooray!
Having seen oddtom's recent any% (i just realized how stupid it is to say any% in this game..) full game with chimps run, I feel that it is important to have a discussion about probability tools like the one used during that run, as well as the route mapper which was also used. Let's talk about it here and see if we can come to some consensus on the subject.
Current concensus: Allow it in runs, either make a new category called "no tools" or have runs specify whether or not tools were used as a sub-category that people can filter through. We can discuss that too.
