Hey all,
Quick note that dev Mike (as opposed to publisher Mike) has finally gotten a speedrun discussion channel setup in the official Discord server!
Feel free to discuss stuff there if the forums seem quiet. I check the server in general way more frequently so it'll be easier to get hold of me there. Invite link is in the sidebar on the left, channel is called #speedrunning :)
Hey, sorry for the late reply. While I wouldn't mind adding an additional category for the current version, as there have been some things that have changed (and also to potentially accomodate other platforms that cannot downgrade) - are you sure the guide to downgrade doesn't work? I know the UI for that has changed slightly due to the new Steam library (I may have to edit the wording slightly) but it should still work. Let me know!
Got pushed back a bit, from what I can tell, but it's live now!!!
https://www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick
ETA: Sickness is kicking my ass right now but here's (finally) the timestamped link to the run :) World record, from what I heard - well done Liz!
Heya all, sorry, been out of it for a while. Glad to see the speedrunning is still going semi-strong and thank you to all the additional run mods that are verifying and approving runs. We're seeing a few other new faces take to running the game - welcome!
Speaking of new faces - save the date! Lizstar, one of the All Cases runners, will be speedrunning the All Cases category at SGDQ (online) on August 19th, 9pm PST*! :D https://www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick
Also, there will be a future content update coming "SoonTM". No idea how it'll impact things or if it'll change up anything drastic but worth giving you folks a heads-up. :)
*I hope I got the time conversion right. Time maths is hard.
Update to the update: HUZZAH! Got some cool news to share. In the grand scheme of things it's not that large but hopefully there's no more need for the somewhat tedious process to get to v1.04 :D
There's a new update (tentatively v2.15) incoming to the game in the works that addresses the potential softlock from the Dylan FLST timeskip in the start of the game, but basically nerfs speedrunning. I quote Mike Lasch from the Discord:
"The way the skip works now takes you to Ch2, not Ch3, because we don't want players who work out FLST and Dylan's files early in Ch1 to miss Ch2 stuff. So it will add time, but it now makes sense story-wise and doesn't cause what appears to be a soft-lock for folks playing through the first time"
I know we already use the earliest available version (v1.04) for speedrunning, but are we keen on making new categories for various versions (and reclassify the old records under v1.04)? Personally, anything goes!
It's happenin'!
Hi all,
Sorry for the radio silence in a while. Things have gotten quite busy and I've not had the chance to review runs as often as I used to. I've just cleared out whichever remaining backlog there has been, and also added a few more regular mods to help out with things. (Don't feel pressured to keep checking in, but it's definitely a perk if you need one of your own runs verified faster ;) )
That said, I just want to post about something special - one of our runners zoton2 will be appearing on the ESA Marathon (ESA Summer 2019) to speedrun Hypnospace! Woo woo!
The speedrun will be happening this coming Friday, July 26, at 1am PST. The schedule can be found here: https://esamarathon.com/schedule If you don't prefer the embedded video player, the stream link is below. https://www.twitch.tv/esamarathon
Alright, finally had time to look at all this, here's my thoughts:
All Cases: Sure, that's the goal of the run category after all so I wouldn't mind HAP skip. I've thrown up a placeholder category in the meantime, most of the details are there, but there's probably still a few salient points I'm missing, so hopefully Zante can take a look over and get any missing conditions figured out.
Nice run by the way!
Alt+F4: Sure, seems reasonable, will be allowing for all run categories (unless the Mindcrash sequence is not to be skipped - see below). Have finally managed to verify the two pending runs. Sorry for the delay, again!
No Sequence Breaks: My initial thought is that these should be kept in because ideally you don't really want to skip the essence of the story and all, so you can say it's more a category of speedrunning the game while going through all the kit and caboodle. Not finalising that yet though, maybe there's other factors I'm missing.
The Mindcrash report was something I was alerted to a few days after launch, something I initially wasn't aware of either. Reporting the "Disable Scary Mindcrash Stuff Button" under Malicious Software should work.
For speedrunning's sake I sorta recommend disabling it first, but then press the back button (or alt+enter, or backspace) so you can jump back to the page; it's inaccessible otherwise.
Definitely some ideas there. All Cases is an interesting one that we could look into.
Some ideas on my end - we probably don't necessarily need to find every single violation of the type, just enough to be able to trigger and close the case (and maybe actually close them for completion's sake - though we gotta look into whether the Sam ones at the very end [are there even?] can be closed). Of note though is that there are some cases in chapter 2 (the free-enforcing section) which you might not hit in a standard playthrough, due to Axxelerator being available after finding 2 - there's four in total, if my memory serves.
100% Archive is going to be a daunting one, currently made more so by the fact it doesn't seem to be possible. The devs are working on it though - hopefully if things go well within the next bugfix patch. Definitely not ruling that out as a category!
Interesting edge case - for now I'll give the go-ahead.
Hey guys! Just a quick thread on various things:
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So I've been informed that there is going to be a few changes to the whole speedrunning thing in the next patch, some segments are going to lose a bit of time (some temporarily, some I dunno). Here's a small snippet of some incoming changes: a. Restarting and logging off will now pop up a confirmation dialog before you can actually restart. Theoretically this would lose a bit of time during the part where you actually need to restart, although I suppose you can use the time to get the confirmation box up, wait until the update box, then restart, so this is most likely moot - but we'll see how it goes... b. HAP skip runs won't be completely phased out, but they'll be impossible for the time being, as the search skip does not seem to be in the next patch. There are however plans to add a new keyword that won't be as easily stumbled upon. Because the main mechanic that enables this speedrun is one of the most sequence-breaking things, this explains my train of thought as to why it is in a miscellaneous category as opposed to a normal category. EDIT: Though, it's come to my attention that if you have DRM-free backups of the initial version with the HAP skip, you're (for now) allowed to submit runs with that build.
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I want to implement a few more run categories - anyone has any ideas? I'm thinking of runs where we aren't allowed sequence breaks, though I have no idea when we should allow runners to hit up the next case. Should we allow them to flag whenever, or just flag only when they get the dispatch mail? ETC
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Definitely looking for more mods to help mod this game. Preferably looking for people that have made runs and will prioritise those over other people. Zante - noticed you stepped down as a mod, would you like to be reinstated?
Yeah, keeping it as a legal move since I had it happen to me personally. Good explanation!
