EDIT: At the moment, the official rules of this community (out of runner's ideas) state that IGT is used for NG+ (with no idling in the menus) and RTA for NG in every platform.
ORIGINAL POST: Hi there. As you probably have noticed there have been some drastic changes in the moderation team, and I think in some way they had it coming because reasons.
Anyways, let's get to the point and vote a definitive way of timing the PC and console versions of the game:
PC (Steam) -
We voted for RTA without loads some weeks ago but we don't have a fully functional load removal tool (for everyone) at the moment and that meant that literally no one could submit PC runs under those rules, so I think the best solution for now is reverting the load remover rule and use IGT again for now (and that would mean no variable/120fps runs for the time being imo).
One thing that is for sure is that we want to avoid going back to the typical RTA timing which was kinda unfair. IGT makes sense.
CONSOLE (PS3/PS4/X360/XB1) -
Since there's no variable FPS to deal with in the console versions and they just run 30 or 60fps depending on the console generation, let's just keep it timed via IGT because it seems the most logical solution for all of the console versions, no PC hardware variants here whatsoever.
Tell me if you agree or not with this as a "fix" for the timing rules once and for all. I'm open to suggestions and ideas.
The days of closing threads without reaching a conclusion are over, so feel free to debate this here for as long as you want, and hopefully finding a consensus solution in the way :)
Is not as simple as going back to the same rules. We need to be more clear about when is RTA or IGT going to be used.
I really like the idea of RTA for NG (since menuing is part of the run) and IGT for NG+
Console is simple, IGT for NG+ is obviously best and for NG it can be RTA like it always has because merchant loads.
For PC, IGT as well for NG+, there is no real reason to use RTA at all for NG+. Now the only part we really have to figure out if we can agree on all that is what to do with NG on PC. I feel we can use the load remover for this only if we get it fully functioning properly for everyone, to where it's easy for a new runner to just come in and pick it up and use it with no complications or technical issues. Also there are FPS decisions to be made but I feel that should be discussed after the main issues.
To start with the immediate decisions though, IGT all day for NG+ and RTA all day for NG.
RTA for me, no matter what. Why using an IGT timer that is not correct? Even in NG+ you can go in the inventory to add/remove stuff to do seg strats for example, so you have to lose time to prepare it. Explain to me why is IGT better for NG+, I don't get it. RTA for NG is pretty obvious I guess.
People whining about this RTA no loads should be the first to do their best to do a correct timer for Livesplit. If nobody can do that, then let's go for RTA.
That's my point of view, which a lot of you guys disagree with, but whatever. I'm tired of this bad IGT.
Since when IGT is not OK for NG+ runs? As far as I know you spend little to no time menuing there, so the IGT technically times correctly the whole run. The main problem was how 120fps could drive crazy the IGT.
Every entry in the inventory should be in the timer. For example, you want to equip acid grenades (for some reasons.) It costs you, let's say, 5 seconds. The strat with it makes you gain 10 seconds. You should have 5 seconds gained on the timer, not 10. I don't understand how doing a thing that changes the run cannot be included in the timer.
How many time you think you're going to gain in a NG+ run doing some extra menuing in which the main focus is mastering the movement and strats throughout the game with a previously set inventory (alike RE4) ?
I'm telling you that not enough to be even noticeable.
And as I said I only gave my opinion about this. Maybe I don't understand what you mean, that's all. Anyway I'll probably won't run much NG+ in the future, so I let you decide for that, as long as there is RTA for NG.
