Hey all,
Looking to start running this, and maybe it just seems more awkward than it is, but im losing you all on the "gun up gun down", im sure its mentioned in the guides, but are you supposed to only get gun ups, and then not collect anything else ao the drops stay consistent? Or do you collect everything. Like bulbs money etc (Really sorry for the dumb questions. But i really like the look of this game)
So in order to get keys as fast as possible you want to mess around with the loot drop tables. Every gun level has it's own drops in a specific order. Some gun levels only have one key some have two. So depending on the level you might only get one key if you just let it ride.
At gun level 3, which is the first "good" gun, on the 6th drop it gives a key, 8th drop a gun up, 10th drop gun down. Which then resets the gun level. So you are getting 2 keys per 16 drops. There are only 16 drops per gun level before it resets to the top. So basically the question is twofold, how to get the keys the quickest and or the easiest.
You could keep the gun at tier 4 and get two key drops if you let it cycle, but gun 4 is terrible. Or go up to tier 5 which is a much better gun but it might not be as fast to get the drops possibly. (will do new math soon)
So for a beginner like me i could technically just learn the route, and keep grinding to level up to gun 5?
I really appreciate you taking your time to answer.
So you need 8 or 11 keys fornthe whole game?
Depending on the route you need different amounts. 10/11 keys is minimum with newest strat. Without noose it's like 6, but makes final area longer and more dangerous. Old route any% is also like 11 keys. Glitchless is 10.
Only thing with gun 5 is to do the most efficient method of getting the two keys you need the whip. If you get the whip up, while you actually have a whip, it resets the current drop list, so you try to get a whip up, then kill so a key is on the screen, grab both and repeat for the farm. But if you just do it normally and avoid the gun up gun down it's perfectly fine too.
Gun 5 is just stronger than gun 3 though as well. So probably worth grabbing in general.
However for a full on new player. You should probably get the potion near the start of the game. After the first sewer section you hug the wall to the left and enter into the wooded area, there is a house that has potions. They heal you to full. The very first hospital that you find doesn't have a boss but does have an area that gives you one extra health if you go a specific way in it (I think I have a video in the slightly obsolete guide). If you are doing any% you automatically get the invis potions which is super useful to not die.
So getting the potion is +1 key, and getting the extra health is +1 more key too.
Hey Thee! Just in case it helps, here's also a sort of master doc of 'where to begin' with some general resources, in case anything else was missing
https://docs.google.com/document/d/109jGkeF4ZVrRQ7cwxVysBusNulXCkF9t4v6BHcmbKv8/edit
I think Shining got you up to speed on the ideal drops Happy Questing!
