I'm wondering if anybody is interested in an any% tournament (much like the Luigi's Mansion tourney as of recently). If anyone ¤does¤ want to join, bump thread of pm me on twitch or twitter or something, idk. As far as how the tourney would be setup, I personally do it like this:
Setup #1:
Seeds are randomly generated and are assigned to a random entrant. For example, there could be 32 entrants with PB times ranging from 1:16-1:30. Anyone could race against anyone. Now, I understand some people don't wanna get screwed by RNG (i.e. having a 1:25 PB and racing against someone with a 1:18 PB) so this would be double elimination. If you don't know what that means (lol), everyone starts in the tourney. When somebody loses, they enter the loser's bracket and can still participate. However, if you lose again while in the loser's bracket, you're out for good.
Setup #2
Seeds are assigned by PB time. The lower the seed number is (1 being the best), the better your PB is. If there were 32 entrants, Seed 1 would face Seed 32, Seed 2 would face Seed 31, and so on. This setup would also be double elimination.
Other Rules:
- Both runners start on file select and must start at the same time (via a race on SRL or by talking to one another using Skype or Discord).
- Mic/commentary is not required, but by all means go for it. Same for talking to your opponent if you so wish.
- Should you attempt EYG and happen to softlock, or in the event that you "game over" during the race, this will qualify as DNF (Did Not Finish). This does not mean the other competitor automatically wins. Should you both DNF in the race, you'll do another race until at least one person finishes (so long as you don't game over or anything). The date you do a make up race is up to your discretion, whether or not you do it right after the first race, or a later date. 4.1. Depending on how many rounds there are (if this tourney does become a thing), there'll be a time limit on when you need to schedule your race. For example, all Round 1 races should be done within a week. Same for Round 2 and so on until semi-finals or finals. 4.2. In the event that Competitor A won (A vs B ) and Competitor C won (C vs D) and move on to the second round and face each other, you can do so as soon as you wish, even if still in week 1 of Round 1. 4.3. Should there be a race not completed (E vs F) by the end of the week, they will both be counted as DNF and be sent to loser's bracket. In the event that Competitor E was trying to contact Competitor F all week but they failed to respond, Competitor E will be granted the win by default due to them showing an attempt to progress the tournament.
I'm sure there'll be more in future edits and such, but yeah. If anyone's interested in an any% tourney, say so. If this thread gets nothing, please pretend it didn't exist and I'm not a laughingstock for attempting this. :)
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- Fixed Setup #2 description cause I'm bad at paying attention to what I write.
These are always cool but get ridiculously boring after one round because of the number of matches. I will only enter a tournament like this if there are 8 or fewer players.
I'm not anywhere near good enough to constitute joining, but if everyone in the tourney had over a 1:25 I'd consider.
For set up #2, that's not how seeds work. Higher seeds always play lower seeds. If there are 32 people in the tourney, the #1 seed will face #32 seed, #2 seed will face #31 seed, and so on. It doesn't make sense to match two people with 1:18s in the first round because one of them would be sent to losers even though they're miles ahead of most of the competition. It should also be a double E tournament, it makes it so the better players stay in winners fairly because they deserve to, and the worse players will fall to losers early, but will then face people of their skill level.
For reference on what Tones said, check out the LM bracket here http://challonge.com/LMTournament2016
Like he said, it eliminates worse times faster and has them play more in the loser's bracket. A couple rounds in is when you'll really start to see the good matches.
@bouncey: welp, having more matches in my eyes is a way to help focus with the objective of winning the race. the more you have, the more you can get better (imo)
@rhombus/speedrunner: that's fine if you guys don't particularly want to join, but this is for fun, not for competition or anything. It's a way to have the community come together and have some fun (and not be labeled toxic all the time (even though I still call it toxic, I'm dumb)). It's also a way to help improve your gameplay and make new rivals/friends or whatever.
@Tones/gc: I'm stupid. What you said is correct and is what I ¤meant¤ to write down but this was right before bedtime after a long workday, I kinda got distracted and wasn't really paying attention to what I was typing and that ended up with me thinking about good people racing against good people and closer skill level races.
At the end of the day, I'm going to assume that this is a resounding "no" thus far.
It's in the eye of the beholder, right? Even if you think you're awful, some people think you're great. This mindset is literally Sunshine. It doesn't matter if you have WR or a 1:55. If you want to improve and reach a point where you can say "Hey, maybe my PB isn't so bad now", or "I reached my goal of getting sub 1:30/1:20", then that's all that really matters. Like I said, this is just to have fun, meet new people, and trying to better yourself at speedrunning Sunshine.
There should be separate tournament brackets (and winners) for different PB ranges. For instance, a 1:25+ really has no change against a 1:16 and thus should be placed in a more reasonable range than 1:16-1:30.
not that this tournament is gonna be a thing, but if it was, it's kinda not fun to organize a bunch of brackets for different skills levels (1:16-1:19, 1:20-1:24, 1:25-1:29, 1:30-infinity). one of the reasons why this was gonna be an "anyone can join if they want" is so they can have fun and learn to improve themselves. if you race against people that are better, you learn from them (at least, if you watch them ever). lastly, i could have a 1:40 and still race against bouncey and have a chance in the event he was having an off day and game over'd during the race. it's not about skill, it's about having fun and the determination to improve oneself at the game (not that i do that anymore, but you get the point).
Looks like this is kinda RIP but if more people still decide to do it I'd be down to compete.
