I'm asking fair questions. I don't think my intent is obvious to you, Shiken. I don't like or dislike any replies here, it's not worth me personally caring for the opinion of non-involved third parties. Aside from attempting to open a public dialogue this serves as PR, SEO and additional evidence to point to. It's in public interest due to potential ramifications on site policy. This is a public forum, any user is free to express what feelings they may have about my specific situation and they're just as free not to, including you Shiken and the reason I made the comment you quoted was your previous position as an SRC representative. I'm just asking questions, I think that's fair. Nothing weird about defending oneself, don't take it personally.
What's weird is the people attacking me cannot engage me on even grounds. It's weird they won't answer any questions.
"Scorched earth, lose-lose approach to getting a forum post deleted". Same could be said of StrayIII's intent and SRC/ELO's intent, that's a double standard. Also, to think I care about a discord server is comical, relevant chat logs are in there, that's it.
At what point will it be admitted they're trying to sweep it under the rug? The original news post was in January and the author, game moderators and SRC/ELO were successful in maintaining my silence for a significant period of time and they continue to still delete posts of mine. Seriously, at what point? I think I've been overly charitable with these people and I've received nothing but complete silence and disrespect in return.
Shoddy website confirmed, not banned in any way as of writing this.
"I don't think you're gaining anything by continuing to post about this here". No worries, I know what I'm doing.
I did not "go out of my way to draw attention to it" I haven't directly linked the defamation post here, I showed SRC are running ads on the defamation. I only wish to "draw attention" only as far as the intent to defend myself on the same platform.
You say "extremely mild allegations" in relation to the claim my intent was to lie and deceive. ShikenNuggets, mate, I understand I'm not being called the worst things under the current cultural umbrella but you cannot say someone's intent was to lie and deceive, publicly and as a fact as a person of some authority. That is defamation in both my territory and the territories SRC/ELO operate. It doesn't have to go as far as "ruining my life" to pass as defamation. You say "it was so long ago", mate, this happened in January, I'm well within the limit to file and what, everything that happened to me should be swept under the rug? Were you coerced to comment and downplay the situation, or did you say that of your own free will? Please do not downplay attacks made on me, do not defend me if you don't wish to either. You have free will to satisfy your own level of curiosity of the context of my situation if you even wish to.
I have clear, blatant screenshots of the current series moderator for the Warhammer franchise either maliciously or negligently lying to and gaslighting StrayIII, StrayIII then made the defamation post including those lies. If wilderjoe had any professionalism about him he would have corrected the record publicly. Shame on him and yeah, shame on people that want to sweep it under the rug.
"You're not even blacklisted anymore" Wrong, please read Recent StrayIII DM's where he tells me to leave the boards, he shouldn't be asking that. No one has the guts to tell certain moderators when they're just infringing on other people. The defamation post contains a threat of if I pursue defending myself, further punishment will be made. So, ShikenNuggets, while the temporary arbitrary 3-month board ban was lifted (which you want to sweep under the rug too?), I'm still blacklisted from the discord and they have threatened me with further blacklisting from the boards or the website if I pursue defence, it wasn't clear what reach they thought their perms had. Do not downplay the threats that were made.
"You should be honest with yourself about whether this is really the hill you want to die on" What are you implying? Literally or financially, like, SRC/ELO and/or the author would bankrupt me? Not everyone understands every expression, if that is what that was. In the case it was an expression, yes, and I ask the same of SRC/ELO and the author, is this really the hill you want to die on?
To be clear, I'm very serious about legal action. I just don't want to necessarily have to escalate to anything official right now as I want to exist in this space.
I was attacked, I defend myself. Should be easy to understand.
What exactly gets a forum post deleted? Are the game moderators just blatantly impartial towards me? Explain what gets a forum post deleted as you've deleted 2 posts of mine and 1 comment.
As per edit 03/06 in the last comment, the evidence dump was deleted (shocker). Here's some tea.
The deleted evidence dump: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XH9luB7FQbagy9LLMxW9bTXfMdkp7vkQLr2gQdVwKx8 Will provide the links inside here too.
wilderjoe: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n29Ci0er-zPZwA0XSP3HajtoK0Ax_f5Alw67Ae4nK3U
deeperjungle & HUECTRUM: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AeWxeEjrlh8mxy-sssrrF1q5Silmbc9i01bacgW0QVY
SRC running ads on defamation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xzVQpoXQ6bq50YuoB8VOCqe0cmfeidQMAL5nAcHLVaM
Recent DMs with StrayIII: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M4xZ2bHRw8GlIB8Rau6Q9TfBiC-5P7cSYHSyhJJk56A
A relevant chat log: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q1W5hyKU65kYbtcEu22uEQ5l0IwbVHGQWqUk80FlYjA
I'm deeply frustrated. Shame on all that has covered this up. It seems likely I'll be forced to sue.
Edit 03/06: Shadow banned or shoddy website? My new post doesn't publicly come up unless you dig for it.
Edit 04/06: Shoddy website confirmed, removed video from previous edit.
Continuing in a comment as the body of the text was too big for the original post.
Should this post be deleted I expect SRC/ELO to be in possession of a backup.
I consider my own public post here and my future comments on said post as part of the terms I'm willing to settle on. I've been publicly defamed here since January; I expect to have the same platform to repair the damage StrayIII has caused to my reputation for the same amount of time both variants of the defamation post were allowed up. Defending myself publicly against such public accusations (preferably on the same platform) is the default.
To those that thought they could get away with perm abuse and face zero accountability, you were negligent enough to cross the line into defamation. You looked for any poor reason to throw stones from a glass house, I've got plenty reason to defend myself and fight back.
SRC/ELO running ads and monetising the defamation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xzVQpoXQ6bq50YuoB8VOCqe0cmfeidQMAL5nAcHLVaM
SRC have provided me an email in which I can hopefully ask questions and receive longer-form answers from them in regard to their site policy and I hope to engage a productive dialogue with them. Should this post reach SRC site staff eyes due to either coincidence or me submitting a ticket because StrayIII deleted evidence again, that full email is currently being drafted.
As further punishment to my account has been threatened multiple times by StrayIII if I pursue my defence, I acknowledge the state of my account as of writing this is untouched but I'm ready to document and expose an unfair site ban catalyst, should it happen. Based on my experience, it just might, thus pre-emptively acknowledging the narrative behind such an action, renders the action less likely as it exposes biases, at least I think so.
Recent DMs with StrayIII: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M4xZ2bHRw8GlIB8Rau6Q9TfBiC-5P7cSYHSyhJJk56A
I'm deeply disheartened and embarrassed for you that you escalated the rivalry you perceive into defamation, Stray. To then gaslight me as the unreasonable one and tell me to "move on" is beyond pathetic. You wrote in bold to the public that I'm not to be trusted, my intent was to lie and decieve. You haven't, won't and can't go 10 toes in standing on business with the Google docs like I can. You have nothing but bad faith interpretations of minor social infractions that are only infractions because of the unreasonable and unfair arbitrary standards you hold me to. Really, you should apoligise for how you've treated me. Shame on you.
It's my belief StrayIII is a liar and deceived this community, he should not be trusted with moderation powers as he has leveraged his position to attack me and misrepresent my actions in such bad faith. He considers me his rival, the "Vegeta to his Goku", as he's put it. Shame on everyone that enabled him and are too cowardly to publicly attach their own names to the defamation.
The game moderators wilderjoe, deeperjungle and HUECTRUM are completely inactive and have been for a long time, this has caused numerous issues and I've been attacked and silenced for pointing this out. deeperjungle specifically has been alleged as pushing for my permanent ban, I'd like for him to publicly explain himself and state his reasons clearly.
wilderjoe (the Warhammer series mod on SRC) is an unprofessional liar, in my opinion, either maliciously or negligently. Here it is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n29Ci0er-zPZwA0XSP3HajtoK0Ax_f5Alw67Ae4nK3U
deeperjungle and HUECTRUM break multiple site rules on active moderation, why were these people appointed to "punish" me? Here's the stats: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AeWxeEjrlh8mxy-sssrrF1q5Silmbc9i01bacgW0QVY
When I originally defended myself here, my comment was deleted (likely by StrayIII). Let's see if he or someone else continues deleting evidence.
StrayIII cannot defend the claims he made about me. This is why he locked the threads, it's why he deletes my comments, silencing me. It's why he won't engage with me anymore.
Despite my contributions to this board, my world records and my involvement in the discord since the launch of the game, the game moderators don't consider me a community member. And to be honest, I'm not so desperate to be considered one. No one in this community spoke up for me. No one said, "hey, that's really unfair to Laggy" when I'm denied access to ~2 years' worth of my own clips sitting in the discord and arbitrarily banned from submitting. No one from the old community spoke up for their own records, mostly because they moved on a long time ago, but still, there were people around and aware who could have said something, I'm disappointed.
As the runner with the most world records in this game (I'm re-submitting them), it's just so obvious how much the Glitchless board doesn't make sense. This is key to my defamation and so my stance about it should be stated, again. Old runs should be grandfathered in, that board is a joke used for free records.
Thank you for the insight into the policy at the time. I'd like to share the full context to my situation however I don't think this forum post is appropriate. I'm providing as much context and evidence (if not more) here as my accuser provided in their public post.
I want to highlight what I initially stated about SRC's current site staff; there's a notable lack of accountability regarding certain game moderator behaviour and such a noticeable lack of communication.
My accuser reached back out to me on this site, after I made it clear I was willing to defend myself within my rights, citing my "behaviour is unacceptable", "settling privately is unrealistic", "meaningful internal discussion cannot take place when you're (I'm) predisposed to act hostile", my accuser says they have moved on and I should as well. They then blocked me, again.
The accusing post in question remains up. The post hyperlinks to deleted evidence (my "announcement", as the post quotes, deleted by my accusers) that may or may not be backed up on SRC's servers. It's been made clear by my accusers that my personal account, Laggy, won't be allowed to re-enter the discord server to further document the public messages exchanged.
As the arbitrary 3-month board ban has passed, it's now being asked that I leave "their boards", as they put it. This is a board I have multiple world records in and contributed a lot to. As of 12 days ago at the time of writing this, SRC was allegedly notified by my accuser to "handle me". As far as I know, I've received no such correspondence or further actions against my account as of writing this.
Slander or any reference to defamation in the site rules is only mentioned as "run submission comments shall not slander users or moderators". I believe this specific line in the site rules was changed recently as I believe it recently said something along the lines of "run submission comments containing slander of users/mods may be rejected by moderators". News posts and forum posts are not included and should be. If the content is objectively slander, why host it anywhere SRC?
SRC/ELO are running ads on the post that slanders and misrepresents me... 100+ accounts following the page received notifications of it. I'd respect myself less if I didn't defend myself, all the way. I'm confident.
Current site staff, please step up and do better. Am I really going to be forced to send a cease and desist? Then what? Is SRC and the author confident?
As I'm more or less challenging site policy (regarding defamation and the title of this post), I believe it's in the wider community's interest I document here what I experience moving forward and if I'm further silenced or banned here because I defended myself, let the record show.
Edit 23/05: "run submission comments shall not slander users or moderators" has been reverted back to "run submission comments slandering users or moderators may be rejected" in the site rules at some point since I brought it up here, I believe. I find this interesting and worth mentioning.
Edit 03/06: SRC have provided me an email in which I can expect to start a long-form dialogue with them and see questions answered, that email is currently being drafted, will bump here with the results of that conversation. Also, I evidence dumped on a forum post in the specific game board defaming me. Once I've determined the stability of that post, I'll either bump here the link to it or reupload the evidence of it somewhere else and link that, seeing as context to my situation was mentioned as non-existent over here. I understand bumps are generally frowned upon, but I think due to the content of what I'm bumping the frowns really should not be sent in my direction.
Considering there's no log of the contents of the policy at the time; it's difficult for me to ascertain its specific reach and intent but I maintain it's a relevant vehicle for my point - there's an obvious line that's been missed. Perhaps the relevant site policy I'm referring to is just better judgement on things stated as fact publicly without evidence or context, and how bad faith becomes obvious, in my case, when an arbitrary 3 month board ban is thrown in. Why not 1 month? 6 months? Why at all?
It was also threatened and apparently "recommended" by someone that, "if my punishment wasn't enough, I would be permanently banned from submitting to this specific board". It's quoted I was put under a "ban-watch" which was "under review" by an unnamed person or group, it's claimed this is "not my first offence" and my actions are described as "continuously egregious". Despite having evidence of approaching one of the other game moderators to make myself and another user game moderators, I was described as "going above the mod-team to acquire my mod-powers through deceit". The author wishes it to be "publicly known" that I'm "never to be trusted" and "several mods agreed on this", despite when I reached out to the current game moderators, only one responded, stating they were indifferent and weren't involved with the actions made against me.
I'll cover what I did; it involves decisions made as a game moderator of this board I have niche knowledge in, Glitchless category was created half-way through the boards lifespan and those with perms formed pressure to not grandfather runs. Players that have Glitchless records in the Restricted category are forced to either duplicate the record submission into Glitchless (2 records, 1 run) or not be compared with the majority of already submitted Glitchless runs. According to my accuser, this doesn't matter, and I was vilified for attempting to move Glitchless runs to the Glitchless category. Due to it's state, it just became a board where new players swooped up free records. I wanted to remove it to reimplement it properly, but it didn't happen. I had already moved some runs in the months leading up to deciding the category needed to just be redone, rejecting a couple submissions that no longer had video as I couldn't determine if it was Glitchless or Restricted. As my accuser was 2 months offline, I didn't message him. 3 out of 4 other moderators are inactive "squat" moderators and I found it incredibly disrespectful to be expected to consult them about a game they don't even verify runs for. There's 1 mod that can be argued I could of messaged, and when we spoke after the fact it was admitted there was actually agreeance with parts of what I was proposing. I also implemented console boards as game updates made certain categories impossible for console to compete in due to down-patching and to maintain 1st place records for one specific new console runner that had been misled about what the Glitchless records actually were. This was one variable that is and was completely reversed by simply deleting it.
During the climax of this saga which catalyzed the post about me, messages from a separate chat room were referenced to me but not shared with me. Such as, questioning why I was unable to retort to things said in the chat room I wasn't in and discussions of "punishing" me.
This could have been handled privately, in good faith, without resorting to defamation, the game moderators chose not to do this.
"We will not remove the posts", is SRC's only official response to me. It's my belief that alongside being informed the game moderators were removing my posts and comments defending myself, leaving public their narrative only, as well as not answering questions in tickets about staff involvement or acknowledging presented evidence, the SRC rep acted negligently to maintain my silence and public defamation.
If it's not a private blacklisting considering the author admitting it and threats of further punishment, I'd be interested to know what it is. I'd be open to consider it was a potential issue with how this specific situation was handled, but from my point of view, SRC won't prioritise my claim unless there's actual accountability presented. Otherwise, there's no urgency felt towards hosting my defamation, and I'm deeply disheartened this is seemingly the approach SRC has taken.
This is an old thread on Reddit that references the specific site policy I'm talking about: Speedrun.com changes their rules to prevent game moderators from banning individual users from submissions : r/speedrun
A quote from an SRC representative at the time: "Our intent was not to gain more control of leaderboards or overrule community decisions or anything like that, we simply saw some holes in our ability to handle site-level issues due to communities having these private blacklists that are not shared with site staff".
I'm currently on the receiving end of a private blacklist, along with a public news post and forum post that misrepresents my actions. I would go as far as claim what's been stated about me in these posts is clear defamation. No evidence or context was provided alongside the posts to support what's claimed, my comment defending myself deleted and the thread locked.
The original intent of SRC reverting these changes has been lost. I'm not a cheater and I'm not a harasser; this is the result of petty in-fighting within the community.
Action was still taken against my account by SRC, and I was removed as a moderator of this specific game despite them never reaching out to me to hear my side of the story. I went as far as providing a Google doc of the chat-logs and harassment I myself received and my evidence went ignored. It's of my opinion the SRC representative that took my tickets was extremely negligent.
Another quote from that Reddit thread by the SRC representative: "it's clear that this was not a good approach to solving this issue. We will re-evaluate this and come up with a solution that allows communities to continue doing what they're doing and doesn't intrude on their freedom to operate the way they have been. That said, until that time we do encourage game moderators to report cheating/other cases of users breaking site rules to site staff."
I believe the solution they came up with seems to be completely backtracking their accountability when it comes to how game moderators treat members of the community they manage.
The bar to become a moderator is very low and I'm in agreeance with this decentralised approach but community members should be able to feel safe to speak out against "tyrant" moderators. Moderators unable to take fair criticism, are willing to abuse perms and mute/ban community members without a real reason outside of bad faith, moderators that segregate themselves in separate chats and roles and take on this sort of authoritarian approach to handling other community members and their criticisms.
I'm just relaying my personal experiences here for now, and I urge SRC to re-evaluate the relevant site policy.
Boltgun Purge Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l_57_uZ_IYlD7pTQ9xNUAeFNKrk8iSxjHtk6WWWo8wo
Originally created in 2023, my guide's being revamped, streamlined and most importantly, finished.
I've been running boltgun since release and one key piece of feedback I've heard from runners thinking about running the game is the unpredictability of purges.
With basic to intermediate game knowledge and mechanics, this guide saves time by catching newcomers up with what's already known about speedrunning the purges.
An essential tool for experienced runners to refer to also.
As far as I've experienced, purges can still behave unpredictably outside of variations that are commonly expected. Please reply here to let me know if variations should be added or updated.
The decision made by the poll in the discord was no PC/console split for now but it's open to be discussed again so if this is something more players would like to see let us know here or in the speedrunning channel of the discord
There's occasional activity in the speedrunning channel of the discord linked on this page, feel free to join! There's also a conversation being had about adding console leaderboards, including a poll. Will have a definitive answer for console leaderboards in the next few days.
This is slander. Why was nothing done by the mods when I was verbally abused in general chat and my DMs?
First doc made 7 months ago, when I was muted in the discord: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kHuCCmh5wa7i_E_vTx3WrkkNh9CSJTaDvPbQWOSxAlQ/edit?usp=sharing
Second with the discord messages after I made the news post and was perm removed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q1W5hyKU65kYbtcEu22uEQ5l0IwbVHGQWqUk80FlYjA/edit?usp=sharing
Breaking down what's been said here:
"Prior to his announcement, several changes were made without permission or prior knowledge from the other members in the mod-team or community. These actions were taken with powers ill-fully gotten and were made with the intention of keeping them hidden until it was no longer possible to act" The only immediate change was PC & Console split. Apart from Stray who was 2 months offline from SRC, the other mods are not active. The extent of their inactivity is highlighted in my docs. (except JayHobs but I got him the role only recently along with myself). I announced all the planned changes as I implemented the first change, it is what it is and focusing on me not saying anything to these mods is ignoring everything else I've brought up.
Stray has suggested I got the role from SRC directly when in fact I got it from WilderJoe (the Warhammer series mod) Please look at this and tell me who's being insincere? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n29Ci0er-zPZwA0XSP3HajtoK0Ax_f5Alw67Ae4nK3U/edit?usp=sharing
"He was the only one privy to these and only intended informing the public until after the board changes were forced." I want to reiterate only PC and console split actually happened immediately.
"By going above the mod-team to acquire his mod-powers through deceit and ultimately making these decisions with such poor reasons, Laggy's goal was to lie and deceive the community." Is WilderJoe above the mod team? He is suggesting I hit up SRC. My first ticket asking for mod here when they first muted me was denied lol. I submitted no proof at the time because I created the doc and I was like nah this is too much for me to degenerate into but I guess I'm glad I've got proof now. Why did WilderJoe tell Stray I didn't msg him? I also don't appreciate the bolding of my supposed goal. My goal was to make things competitively viable and allow the board to accurately show the submitted runs.
"Mistakenly, he applied his changes in error, and several runs were orphaned when mods took notice and acted." This one hurts. When I split PC and console it orphaned everything because all runs didn't have that variable and I spent maybe 3 hours overall across the day quickly giving the runs the variable. The only orphaned runs after that were rejected runs.
"Initially, it was requested of Laggy to halt any further action and discuss the matter publicly. However, this request was refused and more drastic action necessary." Please read the discord log https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q1W5hyKU65kYbtcEu22uEQ5l0IwbVHGQWqUk80FlYjA/edit?usp=sharing
"Laggy's been demoted by the admins and removed from the mod-team, again, and let it be publicly known that Laggy is never to be trusted with moderation powers." The first time I was mod was for like less than a day, I was going to unbury the glitchless records and Stray said too many cooks in the kitchen and threatened to un-mod me if I did anything, so I demoted myself, it's in the audit logs.
"Several mods agreed on this before which is why he circumvented the mods.." This suggests my black listing happened way before what's currently happening. I was black listed when I clashed with Auroch's QA. Uphill battle ever since, they actively haven't liked me since then and have taken every opportunity to keep me from seeing their mod chats in the discord.
"Therefore, current and future runs submitted for verification will see a delay in the verification process, until the board-states have been fixed" This is a nothing burger, they deleted the pc/console variable, it's done. Any run I moved in the months I was mod leading up to this such as the wrong warps in 1-2 glitchless was fixing their mistakes. All in the audit log.
The 'Real Time', yeah, added that line into the rules. The full game timing by adding them up should work too
We should use IGT for levels, it's consistent for everyone whereas LiveSplit is inaccurate without an autosplitter and the time between acts is effectively loading screens
While running I figured these were worth bringing up and should be implemented here
- At the end of every mission a 'Real-Time' is given. This is a suitable timer to use for Levels imo (Not 'Final-Time' as that doesn't count act attempts where you die)
- Full game runs should start first frame of gameplay after pressing start on the first mission (black screen with HUD elements) and should end first frame the 'Target Down' text appears on the final mission (the text flashes red for a frame) There should be no cuts/splices so the menu between missions is counted
- 'Display Time' should be enabled in the Video Settings and 'Show Score' should be set to 'Full' for verification purposes
Hey! If you launch LiveSplit, go into "Edit Splits..." and type Mullet Mad Jack into the "Game Name" bar, the autosplitter should load automatically
The run that is currently 4th place on the Any%/Easy board is the only run that is played on or post patch 1.05. Every other run was played before this patch introduced the in-game speedrun mode timer which gave us official starting and ending points for all the sequences that are counted as in-game time, we timed it differently before this patch which is why some runs are currently minutes faster than they should be. I am in the process of retiming every single run, check in the NewGame+ category, every retimed run is noted with (Mod note: IGT retimed to patch 1.05). Only a few runs in Any% have been retimed so far as that's the bulk of the runs and each run takes roughly 30 minutes for me to frame time 12 different sequences, I've been aiming to retime at least one run a day since I found the frames to reference from this patch but sometimes I've missed days and including obsolete runs I still have a lot to retime, my time frame is all runs will be retimed in no more than a week from now. If you want to submit a run during this you're able, I'm going to post in the news section when all runs before patch 1.05 have been retimed and at that point the runs will be where they should be.