Please add a category for PS NOW, this game is available on PS NOW, since theres a category for Shield I demand a PS NOW category.

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The way that PSNow works is that Sony hosts what are effectively server farms for PS3s, which run the games on the consoles, then stream it to the end user's device. This means that someone who is playing the game via PSNow is, in fact, playing the game on a PS3 with PS3 hardware and, as such, such a run would be submitted to the HD Edition PS3 category.

Even if the game is being streamed to a PS4 or a high-end PC, it is still being run on PS3 hardware, and therefore runners would not see any sort of advantage by streaming the game to such a device.

Thank you for your concern.

That makes no sense @Major_Zero, since you are broadcasting, everything depends on your connection and the connection to the server. For the segmented runs or Level runs it will be worse since the save data and loadings screens dont come from HD or SSD Disk, it's all Online.

Basically you are admitting that playing on a PS3 emulator is the same as playing on PS3, because the PS3 emulator emulates the system (XMB) and the Console Firmware, you forgot is that it emulates unnecessary files that would make the PS3 run better but not make it run better on the Emulator even with a High-end PC.

At the end of the day we have people playing on the emulator and PS NOW trying to beat PS3 World Records.

If you have a fiber connection and perfect elements, it's only going to load and run as fast as a PS3. As Major already said, PSNow just emulates a PS3. There is no point to separation.

Emulate is a loose term in this sense. PSNow emulates, or represents a PS3. RPCS3 is totally different, 3rd party and not comparable.

What option do I choose if im using PS NOW , SSD or HD disk? So I submit the run under the HD Edition PS3 right?

HD Edition PS3, yes. I would do HDD.

@dlimes13 thank you

@uShiUtzy All loading times, including time spent loading saves and loading individual areas and cutscenes, are entirely unaffected by a runner's Internet speed. The loading time is the same as it would be on a PS3, specifically the same as playing the game off of a disc, and using an HDD. If a runner's connection is poor, they may experience typical issues associated with a poor connection, however that runner's loading time will not be affected in any capacity. For segmented runs specifically, the time spent saving a game is not counted towards IGT, so playing via PSNow would have no effect on segmented runs in this regard whatsoever, and would have no effects that are unique to multi-segment runs. I'm also not sure how the issues you raise would affect IL runs to begin with.

Playing on a PS3 emulator is not the same as playing on a PS3, and it is for that reason that all emulators are banned from the boards. As far as PSNow runners competing against other PS3 runners goes, it's important for me to remind you that PSNow is running these games on a PS3. It's not an emulator, it's not RPCS3, it's literally a PS3 in a server farm. It is true that PSNow is slower than the optimal PS3 configuration; PSNow is approximately equivalent to running the game from disc with an HDD. However, it's still a PS3 running the game, so separating it into its own category would be nonsensical. Separating PSNow runs from other PS3 runs would necessarily require the separation of all other runs done on hardware similar to that used in the PSNow services (which is 8 of the 14 runs on the NG Euro board) if the desired end goal of exactly even comparison is to be achieved. Such a separation would fragment the board in arguably arbitrary ways. The fastest way to play PS3 would still be to play in the configuration that top runners do today, which is a 43XXX super slim, SSD, English, digital. On the opposite end of the spectrum, the hardware that Sony uses for the PS3 server farms to host PSNow content (PS3, HDD with disc-like speeds) is still the most common way to run the game. As such, PSNow runs have more runs to compare against than any other runner configuration.

My point is that exactly equal comparison is impossible because MGS3 is always slave to the hardware arms race, and we can't reasonably have a board for every combination of PS3s that run MGS3. If a runner is interested in comparing their run to runs done on similar hardware, filters exist for precisely that purpose.

Also, the boards aren't necessarily separated by platform, but specifically by version. This is why HD Edition PS3 and HD Edition Xbox are separated, but Xbox 360 and Xbox One are not separated. Despite Xbox One runners having a distinct advantage, they are running the same version of the game, and the runners of MGS3 collectively voted to separate the boards accordingly. Likewise, a person who is running the game via PSNow is, indeed, playing the exact same version of MGS3 as every other HD Edition PS3 runner. Every version that is separated on the boards has distinct differences from any other version, and experienced runners can tell exactly which version of the game a runner is playing by just watching the run. From things like aiming sensitivity difference between the PS2 version, PS3 version and Xbox 360 version, and camera angle changes between the Xbox 360 version and the Shield version, to complete gameplay overhauls like the 3DS version, each version has differences that warrant separation. I cannot find any such difference that warrants separation for PSNow.

If it ever becomes known that PSNow runs a different version of the game, or that hardware differences make comparison of PSNow runs impossible from any other PS3 run, then Mini, Apache and I will be happy to separate the categories appropriately. However, we are not currently aware of any such differences. Regardless, I've made a note to talk to them about PSNow and how PSNow runs should be handled going forward.

Thank you for your concern, and I'm glad you've brought it to our attention.

If you have no disadvantage why do you have the category for Nvidia Shield?

I guess PS Vita would go for the same HD Edtion Category

PS Vita, Xbox and PS3 HD Edition is the same it even has the 2 metal gear games special in the menu!

PS2 has different special.

I'm planning to make some runs on PS NOW What I do know is that the PS3 version is blocked at 60 FPS and the PS Vita at 30 FPS and both lose frames.

@Edboi People are having an argument because PS now does not have its own category because the game is played in streaming. PS NOW has the same version has the PS3 Version, this causes the disadvantages that it has in the PS3 version will also have in PS NOW.

PSNow and PS3 are the same version of the game. I have done multiple runs on the PSNow which can be found on my profile. It's a slow PS3, the loadtimes have nothing to do with your internet connection. There is absolutely no reason to separate for this.

what @uShiUtzy is saying is that any loss of package in your conection is a disadvantage its like professional soccer player playing with a broken leg. If you try to aim somewhere your aim wont be 100% precise if your internet starts to lag and that is an disadvantage like there is to the Nvidia Shield Version and thats why in my opinion that it deserves a seperate category but thats up to the mods to decide. A problem like the aim and lag issue wont happen in any offline version, so any streaming platform should be seperate. @RuiStan is right the PS now version is FPS capped like the original PS3 the problem is sometimes you lose more FPS in PS Now.

For PSvita it can be in the PS3 category .

Start a poll, and let the community vote.

We have had multiple discussions with the community regarding the separation. That's why it's set out as it is. I did runs on the PSNow to test it and inform these discussions. I would be happy to reopen them and again discuss the merits for separation but I would need to see some submitted runs first. We aren't going to change the leaderboards for someone who isn't currently taking part in them.

Just for transparency. I was the person who originally wanted PSNow separated and the community voted against it.

Disclaimer: I voted against the original separation of HD versions to begin with. Even under the current structure, I don't really think PSNOW is significantly different from doing a run on PS3 due to how the service works.

Also in terms of the long-term prospects, PSNow being a streaming service makes me hesitant in it being compared just and only to itself. At any time Sony could shut down the service, leaving a frozen board. I will say that PSVita has its argument for separation due to the nature of the hardware. But I don't expect anyone to take such a pursuit seriously.

I think part of the confusion comes from 'HD Edition PS3' being called that as a category, when in reality it includes platforms outside of strictly running on a PS3. Perhaps HD Edition Sony would be a better name.