RomaniaWell, this is my vote:
-skipping dialogue by save/load, checkpoint/load, save/death (not allowed) -skipping dialogue by checkpoint/death (not allowed) - for consistency's sake i vote not allowed on this but you can do this unintentionally if you don't know about it -jumping over the fence in chapter 3 (allowed) ( you can do it 3rd person too) -boat skip (allowed) -climbing on the house to jump over the fence in level 19 to skip activating the lighthouse (not allowed) - this leaves default level geometry tbh, felt like it needed a bit of clarification since you can do this without door glitches -lunge skips (allowed) - the one in the last level is the only questionable one but fighting infernas at the of the run is.. unpleasant to say the least and allowing specific ones as opposed to others is scuffed.
You can cancel dialog by saving and reloading. This has 3 uses:
- skipping the guard's yelling before he comes out in the 1st level
- in the 2nd level to skip some speeches and get your beat meter thing faster
- in the asylum level to skip some killjoy dialog at the end. You can get the same effect by saving and dying, or activating a checkpoint and dying (which can happen naturally in the 2nd level). Is this allowed?
Also i looked into an old skip, seems acceptable to me but just to make sure, is this one ok?
A category like this needs some strict rules. For example, is the jump i do at 08:04 in my all levels run considered a glitch? Seems pretty natural
By attacking while falling with a knife next to a door and then spamming use you can clip through it.
You can skip half of lvl 2, killjoy's show in lvl 3, hargrave fight in lvl 4, hermes fight completely and you can enter the platform lowering area for the final boss earlier. Probably 2-3 minutes of timesave.
Here's a run with all the stuff, it's very sloppy but it's a 1 minute PB after not playing for a year:
i got rid of it by deleting Unspeakable.cfg in the install directory. it will reset all your options tho so make sure you reconfigure them
gog is the only place i know of that sells it https://www.gog.com/game/the_suffering
SolusOHKO found a way to go from lvl 2 to level 14, this alternate route seems slightly slower and A LOT harder tho. I'm going to leave a video of my run here. It's not a perfect run, it could be 50 seconds faster at the very least but it should at least show a good route using this strat.
2 new things:
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A faster way to do the level 1 skip but also way harder: you pretty much just jump directly at the door and open it in 1st person while in the air. Saves ~8 seconds over the safer method
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Chromenoir found an OOB trick in the 2nd part of level 4. Saves ~10 seconds on easy and ~15 seconds on insane but you lose out on 3 xombiums You have to be in the air when triggering the cutscene otherwise you won't be set back in bounds.
Right, so more stuff has been found.
Level 1: you can go out of bounds using the door glitch, you save ~2:20 on it. Watch the beginning of my run
Level 2: you won't have a flashlight so avoid the one at the beginning. Aside from skipping dialogue i found out that you don't have to kill all the slayers after going beast mode sometimes. Seems like as long as there are no slayers on the map and you're in human form the door will open and you can continue.
Level 5: Die_Mann found out you can cancel the small cutscene by damaging the two inmates or using a flashbang on them. You can also jump down with a sideroll without taking damage I found a faster way to jump on the fence next to the basketball thing using the explosives that open the gate (it's also way easier). Watch my video and practice it a little, shouldn't be too hard.
Level 17: The gap skip is easier to do if you're aiming for the rock on the left, you also don't take damage and save a little bit of time since you can jump up without the animation. From there you can take an alternative path on the right. Since jumping in first person is faster, this path is slightly faster than going through another transformation animation and hunting down a slayer. On the road there's a bunch of TNT meaning you can skip the shrapnel pickup in the next mission.
Level 18: I found out you can climb a small hill and take an alternative route which is faster and allows you to skip going beast mode. You save ~15 seconds if you do the OOB skip too.
I've compiled a small list of tricks that can't be used yet but could have potential use if someone can do something with them.
Level 20 gap skip without using beast mode: This could possibly be used in impossible runs since farming beast mode takes forever on impossible.
Going out of bounds in level 2: Level 2 is connected to level 14 similarly to how level 5 is connected to 16. I couldn't actually do anything with this tho.
Going out of bounds in level 4: Couldn't find a way to go back in bounds.
Climbing the mountain in the first part of level 20: If you can skip the part where you're trapped by fire in the tunnel, you'd save a lot of time but i couldn't figure out a way.
Climbing the mountain in level 12: If executed perfectly this is actually a small time saver in the all levels run. You can get to the other side of the river with this too but you're a bit stuck behind trees and can't exit the level.
I found an interesting glitch involving doors. While in first person, hug a closed door that opens towards you, open it and then close it and spam jumps while it's closing. This will throw you upwards a bit and clip you through the ceiling. I only manages to find 2 uses for this since most doors don't throw you high enough:
I've tested various movement types to see which one is faster 1st person run 3.87s 1st person jump 3.15s 1st person roll 4.14s 3rd person run 3.52s 3rd person jump 4.41s 3rd person roll 3.02s insanity 2.81s Tests were done over the same distance. 3rd person rolls seem to be the fastest but 1st person jumping offers way better mobility so it's likely the best one to use in most cases.
