@beedoopson

You are free to do fun runs for all bosses. We just won't be adding a category for it until the game is complete. There are already too many categories for a game that only has 5 runs submitted in the last 6 months. For example, I have personally done an all boss run but it also is not on the board as since then 3 bosses have been added.

Consider: We have a total of 76 categories already. 40 of these categories do not have a single run submitted to them. That is over half. Adding another 4 categories for a run that would exceed 10 hours will make the board look even emptier.

Also, to address your concern with ancient guardian: We already have a category for reworked Ancient Guardian called "Reworked Ancient Guardian". It was sorted in the 'r' section of the list. I've moved it to the top of the ILs page next to the other one and changed the name of the old Ancient Guardian to "Locked" to avoid confusion.

Verified. Next time please show it at the end of the run so it's easier to find.

1. What happened to Hamlet? It came out literally more than 3 years ago. The game can't be that dead, right?

It is that dead. Heck, even DST, a much more popular version according to steam stats, gets maybe 1 run submitted every month or 2.

Hamlet also came out after it was realized that there is no way to verify runs are unseeded and did not have their code altered. So it's probable the mod just gave up and lost interest. For example, I had a run waiting to be verified for over a year (2018 September until around 2019 December). The mod never verified it, eventually the admins of the site just made me a mod of the DST board. I've done what I could to fix up that game, but there's really not much interest in it due to a combination of how much luck is required and how trivial it is for anyone to cheat.

2. Why isn't there an 'all dlc bosses' category? (All bosses in all worlds)

No interest since the game is mostly dead. A category like this would also be a huge crap shoot in single player as most bosses only have a 66% chance to spawn and there is nothing the player can do to impact that (unless they cheat and very easily edit the completely open code).

But hey, feel free to do any runs you want including an all bosses all dlc run. You don't need an "official" board to have fun in a good game.

Upon closer inspection, it is incredibly obvious that this is a seeded run. Trying to pass it off as unseeded (which isn't even a category) will be counted as a form of cheating here due to the intentional surreptitiousness. This first infraction will be a warning, if another cheated run is submitted a permanent ban will be issued.

Please respect the rules from now on and do keep in mind that the unseeded category does not exist anymore and thus unseeded runs will never be accepted.

No.

"To further clarify: The current timing is listed as "first frame of movement animation." This is to help people with slower computers be able to run short runs, not to be used to idle in long runs. In events where the player makes their best effort to leave the character screen this timing will remain, in events where runners do not make said effort timing will follow the old rule of "first frame of character select screen." "

https://www.speedrun.com/do_not_starve_together/thread/3zf8m

Editing worldgen_main should work for both. Cave entrances may be mixed up though but I don't have a good solution to this.

We're still on a no mods allowed policy. Any mod makes it easier for someone to make substantial changes to a run to give them an advantage as mods can be made to look like another mod. While these changes could be done with just file edits is also a problem but there's nothing we can do about that other than hope no one wants to commit that much time to cheating.

No.

Until they stop adding new bosses and DST is considered complete, we won't have an all bosses run as it will need to be wiped every time a new boss is added, making it pointless to do the run.

This game isn't popular enough to have meme runs unfortunately. We still have many actual categories with no submissions at all.

If it helps, a starve run would just be ~8 minutes as that's how long it takes Wes to starve.

Then to improve on that, the run would become entirely world seed dependent as there is a set piece called the rot trap which would allow you to eat rot in order to starve faster, so the closer this trap is the spawn, the faster you starve.

At this time:

For long runs (celestial champion), yes.

For most runs, no, just the player(s) hosting the world or who have admin rights to the server.

I see you figured out how to submit, unfortunately we are unable to accept unseeded runs at this time. Most regrettably, this includes all console runs as they are unable to easily display the seed of the world (requiring physical console modifications).

Antlion kill Solo: 1st: RyeGames, 3:09, 2nd: Binary01103, 3:31,

Dragonfly Kill Solo: 1st: Binary01103, 7:21,

SpiderQueen Kill Solo: 1st: Binary01103, 0:48.064,

Treeguard Kill Solo: 1st: Binary01103, 1:08, 2nd: CallMeSharon, 8:54, 3rd: NightMule, 14:26,

SpiderQueen Kill Co-op: 1st: Lady_Ebao, Boogerts and WeenisTamer, 2:01,

Treeguard Kill Co-op: 1st: Alcantara and SMOK_, 8:53,

This is to archive all custom world settings speed runs submitted prior to the March QoL patch which massively changed the way worlds are generated.

Thanks to all runners who submitted and ran these categories! All runs after March 11th must be on patch 455433 or higher for the new leaderboard.

"Also, due to Klei's aggressive and frequent patching over the course of the last year, the patch number that you are running on must also be included. This can be achieved by showing the home screen of the game before clicking the "host game" button. Patches may remove bugs or exploits that are used thus rendering some old techniques impossible on the current patch. Until someone shares a way to safely downpatch your game, runs will be removed if a used bug is removed in a later patch."

From the "Category and Rule Updates" thread.

Custom world settings runs will be wiped.

@chocolateTheGaming

Redlof is not active. I had a run pending verification for over 13 months. I asked to be made mod of both DS and DST but SRC only added me to DST for some reason.

@Alebrant

There’s no need to be so rude

I stand by my statements. If it is rude to be blunt and honest then that's what I am. I won't mince words or waste time. If you were offended then that is unfortunate.

If you want a possible solution

Again, I refer you to read the other posts already on this board if you would actually like to help. We have already reached out to the devs (now explained to you twice) and Klei officially stated that what you are suggesting is literally impossible due to the open nature of Don't Starve Together's code.

You can never be 100% certain that no cheats are being done

This is true, but video editing can be caught, as has been brought to light in many scandals from other boards on this very site especially in the past two years. Video editing is also not trivially easy. In theory, it could be done perfectly and be undetected, but that is extremely difficult.

To cheat this game (unseeded) it is literally as simple as copying and pasting a number. If you know how to open a file, you are already a master of cheating this game.

If someone’s runs are consistently suspicious

This is impossibly subjective. As a mod, you only see the best runs from a player; the runs where things went right, where they took the right turns, jumped in the right wormholes, etc. I would rather have 20 would be runners (such as yourself) pass on running DST than I would ban one legitimate runner just because they got suspiciously lucky one weekend of recording.

But that’s just that, a personal opinion, as good as any other.

This philosophy is just wrong. An uninformed opinion is not as good as an expert or informed one. If you feel that your opinion is as valid after spending a maximum of 12 hours on this board and watching a single YouTube video as someone who has spent years pouring over the code of Don't Starve and DST, reaching out to and working with the developers, and has spent years on this mostly empty board before I wiped essentially 10 total runs, 4 of which were mine (1st places too) anyways, then you are just deluding yourself.

This board was empty before the wipe, you'd have known that had you spent years here or simply asking rather than assuming that it was a bustling and busy board before it.

For the record, if you actually care about the history and aren't just pretending to care:

Before the wipe: Ancient Guardian, Bearger, Deerclops, MooseGoose, SpiderQueen, Tree Guard, and Toadstool were literally empty boards despite being up and unchanged for over 4 years. Not a single run in 4 years submitted to any one of those categories..

Hell, the previous mod had not even made categories for Ancient Fuelweaver, Shadow Chess pieces, Antlion, Malbatross, or Crab King. Not to mention they simply left my all boss speed run in the verification queue for over a year despite them being active on the site on other boards and submitting runs themselves.

We have had more runs submitted and verified since I changed the rules than existed and were submitted in the 4 years prior to the wipe. Fewer than 15 runs were wiped (again, many of those being mine), we presently have a board that is actually up to date with 11 verified runs and 4 more in the queue as of today that hopefully our Mac mod can verify and confirm the seeds on.

So I'm sorry if your erroneous assumptions bothered me and belittled the boat load of work I have put into saving this board over the years. It has never been a popular game to run and submit to SRC, but it is currently in a healthier state than it has been in the past 4 years. If you don't like the rules (which again, have literally and defensibly saved this empty board and brought in a few current and active runners), then you don't need to run it, but don't pretend that you represent some untapped resource of 10s or 100s of potential runners who will suddenly join an extremely niche indie game if just a few rules that you don't like are changed.

To end with some positivity, there is nothing that is stopping you from doing unseeded runs for fun. If the only motivation to run a game is to have your name on an unknown internet board, then it wasn't likely meant to be. Personally, I am continuing to do unseeded runs on my stream and posting them to YouTube just for the love of the game. A category does not need to exist to justify having fun and doing unseeded runs.

No one asked, but I don't like seeded runs either. Because I am the mod here I did a few to get a name on some boards in the early days after the rules changes out of a sense of mod-ly duty, but it's nothing that I'm actually interested in doing.

Both seeded and unseeded runs are heavily luck influenced. Unseeded runs involve an arms race towards finding better seeds (the luck part), then the best runners can fight on a given seed to see who has better mechanical skill and map memory to save a few frames (the skill part).

Where as unseeded is a weird mix of luck and skill. You need to get lucky enough to get a map where things just work out and are close together, but also need enough skill to make fewer resources work out and not squander a once in a lifetime random gen. I like that feeling of getting a good gen and sudden pressure you feel when you realize "oh crap, it's on. I can't mess this one up." That pressure doesn't exist in seeded runs sadly, so I'll leave those up to the active and future runners who do enjoy that while I race myself for the love of the game rather than out of any desire to gain recognition.

@Alebrant

I'm sorry you feel that way because I feel the same.

Unseeded runs can only be done for fun now because there is literally no way to ensure the integrity of a run and that it actually is random. Because it is possible to cheat (as you can see with the highly suspected cheater on the single player version of Don't Starve) the only way to ensure a fair and level playing field is for all runners to be seeded.

Here is a video I made as an example:

It follows all the previous rules for SRC, but actually is seeded. The run is indistinguishable from an unseeded run. Thus, by the old rules, I would have a ridiculously unfair advantage of having a secretly seeded world.

We literally had topics up for 18 months asking people for help on how to ensure that a run is randomly generated. Hell, we even reached out to the developers of the game asking them for help. They replied that there is literally no way to ensure that a run is unseeded and that the files have not been tampered with in some way. Topic here: https://www.speedrun.com/dont_starve/thread/spnpi

This is why the board had to be reset; we couldn't tell the difference between a fair or unfair run. That was explained well and was not an easy decision to make; You know I literally was deleting my own first place runs right? I dedicated my life to this game, I stream it as my full time job. I spent months training to do an unseeded all bosses speed run. Literally months of training for a 10 hour endurance run. And I had to delete that first place run. Months of my life gone. It was not an easy choice to make. (run here: )

So while I do empathize with your sentiment, I was the most active unseeded runner of this game period after all... Your critique literally misses the point and is not helpful. If you have a suggestion of how we can actually ensure that a run is random then please add that rather than ignoring all the previously posted topics on this which lead to why we were forced to change the boards to the current rules that we have in response to nearly 2 years of not finding a solution to the problem you are pointing out. Frankly, I'm offended by your inability to read and am glad that you won't be part of this speedrunning community.

Pausing: No, files could be edited or console commands could be run between filmed game sessions.

Multiple bosses per video: Sure, just time each one separately.

To further clarify: The current timing is listed as "first frame of movement animation." This is to help people with slower computers be able to run short runs, not to be used to idle in long runs. In events where the player makes their best effort to leave the character screen this timing will remain, in events where runners do not make said effort timing will follow the old rule of "first frame of character select screen."