HungaryBut didn't you think back then that the run was illegal?
Honestly? No. And the reasons are dead simple: I was a noob in speedrunning and I put myself in high water by modding my first speedgame. Since I personally asked KeeperRavager who held the WRs (different ruleset and non-existent categories, but he was the man) and he told me he used this stuff. Since his times were accepted way before me, I thought it's okay. Also the game didn't have a proper ruleset and I never thought of that even though I'm basically an IT guy.
I admit that I made a mistake with that, for that I apologize.
You admitted to using an external app - which in your eyes isn't and wasn't cheating.
It is now. Now that I saw the difference. Even if it hurts my ego to lose that WR, if it's not fair I won't defend it. In this topic you guys are 100% right. In this case I'll probably run through the game once, just to have a proper and legit (meaning RAMDisk-less) time on the boards, also my current personal best has no video anymore and I don't want to be completely disappear.
If you can figure out what timing system will you use in the future, I wish you the very best luck in this game.
Hey everybody,
Since my times were already rejected, I don't have much to say. I'm not blind I also saw the difference in the comparision videos made by you. Avram contacted me a couple of times, all I said to him is he's the mod around here, he does whatever he sees good to do. He did and I accept. You made your points, I don't see any disrespect in your comments, the only thing I expected at least tag me if you call me a cheater/speedhacker or whatever.
Well technically one person did it on Discord, but it was more of a harrassing and that is the only reason I'm here. Don't spam or threaten me with this bullsh*t. Out of respect which he didn't earn at all, I keep his name to myself, but this is Neighbours from Hell, not the GTA community. It's not fun to harass someone.
One thought for approving my own runs... Who should've done it guys? :D The OG mod who was inactive for 2 years already when I entered the scene? Until Komar arrived I was the only active mod and I accepted pretty much every run, all I was checking if the runner starts/stops the timer correctly (retimed if needed) and if they do the necessary levels. (Fininshing season 3.) The reason I approved my own runs even with other active mod(s) is that they were most of the time watching the runs live on my channel and they were like: "okay, you can approve that, I saw the whole thing". Same goes the other way.
I already explained Kikons that one thing I used was a RamDisk emulator or whatever it is called, which was used by KeeperRavager too which to be honest uses the exe file of the game, but I didn't really have any concerns about it. We didn't have a ruleset back then and I was pretty new to speedrunning. Now after 5-6 years of experience in different games, engines, categories etc. I'd instareject a run like that as a mod. The best time I achieved was a 2:40 (but I only submitted my 2:42 before the 2:36 cause laziness and stuff) which now would be a 5x tied WR. It really grinded my gears, so I asked KeeperRavager back then: how? Then he explained this RamDisk stuff, he believed that it makes the game load faster since it uses your RAM, not your HDD/SSD/USB whatever. I tried and immeadietly got 2:38, then eventually 2:36. I was happy with the tied WR, also I saw the original video of his, sadly it's not available anymore, it could prove a lot of things. It might mess around with the FPS which made the game run faster. Before you say that's a cheap excuse, actually it is a thing in a lot of games incl. an other speedgame of mine (the Harry Potter series), you can even ask Avram why we lock FPS there. I'm not making chaos theories... just a thought.
At this point I'd say speedrunning is in general RTA timing, obviously there are exceptions. The last couple of years we had such things as load time removals so everybody have their fair chance to shine even with a toaster PC. I still don't know if it's possible to make one for this game, if so... go for it. But making the leaderboards IGT will most likely kill the competitiveness, since every single person will have the same time. I mean there is only one solution for every level (see Level Leaderboards where every damn level is a 5-10-way tied WR). I don't have a word here anymore, I removed myself as a mod, but let's be reasonable. The only difference between the runs is pretty much the menuing. (Yes of course, the loading times as well for those who have weaker PCs.)
Since I'm pretty sure I'm on a "blacklist" from now on, unless I prove the opposite which I won't... I just ask you to let at least my current time sit on the boards and I also wish a good luck for future runs which I hope there'll be and this wasn't just only a witch hunt against my times. Don't let this game sit for years!
Hey Kikons,
Well first of all, it's nice to read a comment like this in a normal tone, not some ranting-cursing BS. I actually watched the video of yours and before I say anything to that, there was an other person - sadly deleted his account since then, even rebranded his YT channel, I don't know if he has a channel anymore - who had the same time even before me, so I asked him for some secrets, and he did it with ramdisk, according to him it shortens loading times, but I haven't noticed anything compared to SSD, even though I achieved my time which was a tied WR with his method. It is possible that ramdisk has an effect like this, never really experimented, never really cared about. To be honest, I never heard about ramdisk before I pick up this game. I tied the WR, I was happy. I'm not a mod anymore and we don't have the other WR video to compare. It would be helpful. I let Avram decide, he's the mod. I saw the difference in your video, I'd suspicious too. Also the original video is something that you'll never get :D Five years gone, I don't even have the recording of my latest run of anything, I don't really speedrun anymore. If the case is that this run is compromised, then probably my any% run as well, even though there was somebody who beat that time back then, but they did admit that they cheat. I think someone even produced a 2:34 in this category, also via cheating. I can't and I don't really want to say more to this.
I didn't understand the last two messages but the answer to the original question is: currently, no. Pausing and unpausing a timer cannot be precise, you can lose or gain seconds which is unfair. I understand your point that your laptop is weak, but I cannot change the rules for one person. Sadly I'm not a programmer and I can't make a load time removal for LiveSplit for this game but if you or anybody can do it, I will give it a try.
General rules of speedrunning: If the leaderboard rules not saying otherwise, we use RTA timing. I'll fix this one, but until we don't have any kind of plugin that removes times automatically, we're going to use that method. Sorry for the late answer, but I'm currently on holiday.
I see your point and it's really acceptable. It has more challenge and you actually complete the first part or actually the only part of the "story". Completing 3 random matches is not really trackable, but this makes sense. Hope it'll get accepted...
I'm really interested in Towers%, but it should be on the Level Leaderboard or sub-categories at least. Doing all the Towers is kinda impossible since 2K will add more of 'em. For example The Million Dollar Challenge is not in the game. I know it'll take a decent amount of time to do all this stuff, but this is the great speedcategory, cause you can't choose wrestlers or change the difficulty in any meaning. Wish you guys luck!
Hey, I'd like to mod an old gem called Neighbours from hell ( https://www.speedrun.com/neighbours_from_hell ) but FedePG is inactive for a month. However I reached the another mod Mugg1991 on Twitter but he couldn't add me, so I'd like to ask the admins around here to do it, if it's possible.
P.S. I don' t have a pending run right now, the reason I need a mod in this game is to clarify the rules NOT changing them and a fellow speedrunner on contacted me on Discord that he beat my WR but he's still waiting and since I saw the whole run, I'd like to verify it.
Thanks, AJ
