I was thinking of doing a run to max level but it occured to me that if someone sets a record for 140 and they raise the cap to 150 with an Expansion then the record for 140 would be worthless for that category.

However a run to Mordor might make more sense. The end of Volume 4 or 5. Available to VIP and FTP.

Same rules as everything else plus "Must include every Epic Quest, completed in order".

I think this is an interesting idea. I will mention that a full run to max level (150) is currently under review. It's probably something where the max level runs need to be categorized by what the level cap was at the time. SSG is raising the level cap every 2 - 3 expansions so that should be plenty of time for max level.

The only issue I see with the Epic story pieces is you can hop on / off the story, so it would be a bit time consuming to verify each quest was completed unless the meta deeds are shown along the way. Also would there be sub categories like "level 1 -> End of Volume 1", "level 1 -> End of Volume 2", "level 1 -> End of Black Book of Mordor" etc.?

Verification that the Epic has been completed in full can come from the Quest Log with the completed Quests tick box. When a Chapter is completed show the Log in the recording and submit the timestamp of that moment to make it easy to find, in fact a timestamp for every Epic Quest would be reasonable to me. Splits for each Book maybe? That way it would be possible to find a Chapter completion and verify that Quests were completed in order easily for moderation. Possibly a level cap of 105, not sure, Stone Of The Tortoise https://lotro-wiki.com/wiki/Item:Stone_of_the_Tortoise

I think 1 to the end of Epic Quest Volume 4 (The ring is destroyed) would be fitting. There is a Volume 5 which is only talking between the player character and various other characters, after the battle etc. If you want a shorter run I would say the end of Volume 1 (Angmar) capped at level 50 using The Stone Of The Tortoise.

Thing about anything later than the Epic is levels. Someone at 150 would finish the Black Book of Mordor very quickly and not on a level pegging with someone starting at 105 etc.

I am going for it. I stream LOTRO 6 days a week for about 4 hours and something like this might be good to watch.

Zero XP to end of the Epic Quest, including Volume 5 and the Intro. Same rules as levelcap. Quests will be done in order ie no skipping something to go back to it if you see what I mean. I will timestamp the video for every Epic Quest in the video description to make it easier to check, I will also show the Quest Log to prove every quest has been completed. I am not sure what to do with splits, for example a split at the end of every "Book" would have been nice but there are 50 books so not very practical, maybe just "Volumes".

At the end of Volume 2 (Mirkwood) is/was an Epilogue which contains Fellowship quests which cannot be Solo'ed. The Official Wiki says the Epilogue is no longer part of the Epic so I will skip it entirely, ending Volume 2 with Book 9.

I will make use of the /played in chat, it shows how long since character creation. Just for extra proof so to speak.

Sounds good. As far as splits go, most people have only used them as markers for subsequent runs to gauge how they are doing. These categories don't really require certain splits to be used. If it were me, I'm data heavy and would probably split each Book and/or Chapter. Split for each volume is probably plenty of data too. Volume 1 is a long boy though.

When I get some time I'll look at re-organizing the "max level lol" into a broader category with "1-150" and "Epic" sub-categories. Since some people are doing those runs it probably makes sense to make it into something more usable than "for the lulz nobody will do this".

I took a swing at reworking the "max level lol" category. It has been renamed to "Extended Edition" and sub-categories exist for Level 1 - 150 and Epic Story. If anyone has complaints or suggestions, please post about it here.

Thanks for doing that. Looks good. I am starting my 3rd go today (Epic VIP), just wasnt happy with how the first two were going so thought better to restart now than near the end (got to Volume 1, Book 7).

Something that has been bothering me is how the run can be checked. I have decided that I will do side quests until I feel happy that I can complete a book without interruptions then play through that book start to finish, probably one video. That would mean one video to check for every book, other videos being just normal gameplay.

I suggest adding something to say that shared currency cannot be used. My reasoning is that I could run with a character on my usual server and barter at the Skirmish camp and other places using currency generated by other characters, more or less the same as passing gear over to the running character. There are other items which are bound to the character which should be available to barter with that could be used during the run.

That would be any currency which is shown as green in the wallet cannot be spent, such as Marks from Skirmishes. Currency shown as white can be spent, such as Arnorian Coins from Evendim.

Big problem with Volume 2 Epilogue.

Described in the Wiki as "The following quests are no longer part of the Epic story-line but still appear in that section of the Quest Log."

One of the Quests in there is "Gorothúl of Dol Guldur" which is to complete the instance "Samath Gul". It needs a fellowship of 6, I have looked around and seen experienced players of about 130 struggle to solo it, a level 65 Quest.

In view of the fact that the Wiki says it is no longer part of the Epic can I ignore the Epilogue as part of this run? It is the only quest which actually requires a full Fellowship. Even if I were to find a group to help me through they would probably be of such a high level that they would just carry me through it anyway.

From a personal viewpoint I should add that I am not part of a kinship, I solo everything including some instances. If the Epilogue is part of this I will not be able to complete the run.

I should finish Volume 2 today, during my stream but I still do not know what to do about the Epilogue.

Not quite enough time to finish Volume 2 today so tomorrow will do.

I will do the Epilogue after all. I will not be able to kill Gorothul at level 65ish so that single quest will be done at a higher level much later. I have easily solo'ed him with a 104 this afternoon as a test so it can be done.