With TSC submissions being down since March and the site's infrastructure growing more outdated by the second, it's finally time to put some IL leaderboards up here. The change won't happen untill after SGDQ as I simply won't have the time, but I wanted to get this thread up ahead of time to list how I intend to structure the boards, as well as gather some input from the community about several points.
Rules:
- Video is required
- Team Blast Glitch is banned
- Segmenting through checkpoint usage is allowed
There will not be a transfer of any existing statistics from TSC or other sites. The sheer workload would be huge as is, even more so if we contact every person to ask if they're ok with having their stats transferred to begin with. A lot of stats on TSC are without video to begin with, so even if we did a stat transfer, it would still result in an incomplete board. The intention is to give these boards a fresh start and let the people decide for themselves whether they want their stats here or not. This will make the boards start out empty of course, but if the community wills it, the boards can evolve into the primary IL boards on the internet.
The boards will be structured by stage, with subcategories for each team. PC and Console will both have their own boards, unlike the shared board on TSC. The Metal Madness IL will be submitted under Team Sonic.
Perhaps a bit of an unnecesary rule for PC, but should some monster manage to get super consistent at PC's version of the glitch, I'd like to have this up for clarity. Team Blast Glitch is banned for 2 reasons: 1. To keep the robot wave bossfights interesting, instead of “Spam TBG to insta-kill every wave” and 2. To keep Team Dark interesting, considering their Team Blast effect stops the level timer. Accidental Team Blast Glitches will be judged by whether they had any effect on the outcome or not.
If people want, we can have a variable for checkpoint segmenting. Both options will be shown by default as they are both valid, but it gives people the option to filter if they want to see what the best unsegmented run is. I personally think it's a good idea, but I'd like to hear from you.
If you have any thoughts about any of the above or something I didn't mention, post here. It'll be a while before the change is implemented, so you'll have plenty time to get your thoughts in.
Lastly, keep in mind that verification will take a while during the initial wave. Especially since this is not the only game that will be getting IL boards. Should the workload become too large for the existing mods, I'll be sure to recruit someone from the community to help verify.
Some additional info about the board structure: Extra stages will be included yes. The stages will be added as "Seaside Hill" "Seaside Hill Extra" "Ocean Palace" "Ocean Palace Extra".
You'd theoretically get less blank spots by adding "Team x Extra" as subcategories, but having too many of those will make the "view all" page look extremely cramped and squished together as the site does not support horizontal scroll bars and will instead make the columns more narrow.
Thanks for all the discussion so far. To sum up what I'm planning to do for Heroes when I get a chance to put up the boards, based on the feedback thus far here and in the discord:
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View all page will look something like this: ............................................Team Sonic........Team Dark.....Team Rose.....Team Chaotix Seaside Hill Seaside Hill Extra Ocean Palace Ocean Palace Extra Rest of the stages Egg Hawk Team 1 Robot Carnival Rest of the bosses
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Team Blast Glitch will be banned only for Team Dark, Robot Carnival, Robot Storm & Metal Madness/Overlord
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For the teamfights, if either team is moved before control is naturally gained (i.e. restart glitches), the time is disqualified from the boards.
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Segmenting through checkpoints allowed, with a variable so people can filter for it
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Pausing to gain an advantage allowed, no variable for the time being, but this can be added if enough people want it
