Add a new category ‘Breaking %’ where all rec room based runs are legal. This includes, but is not limited to, piercing and walkport. Psvr invincibility not allowed as it is not rec room based. This allows us to still have fun with these bugs but the people who worked hard for the old world records can still keep them.

I’m on board, but this has been discussed as a category and I don’t think the other mods are.

I honestly do agree with cyclic, because with the power of all these glitches, you could get one heck of a time. And its not fun that the any% category is only glitches like skips and glitching in weapons. Any% SHOULD mean beat the quest as fast as possible under any circumstances without recalibration and stuff like that. But with that logic i think it would be best to create a category along the lines of what cyclic says.

"but this has been discussed as a category and I don’t think the other mods are" I agree with the others original moderators. But if theres ever gonna be Breaking % or Disrespect% it would mean allowing everything. So people dont start to complain "you used that why thats allowed". Recalibration is recroom based, just open watch. Its playstation only so then why not allow pcvr playspace? And how about walktele, its quest2 and pc only? even tho i cant get it done pc, but with quest2 no problem. Also is it really fun to watch 1.30min isle speedrun, just to beat boss level, because there is a really complicated method to fool game to start game on boss level instead of act1, run like that its 100% legit and must be approved, its based where your gold pile is dropped, so instead of game loading act1 when hitting start game(not continue), boss level will start or any level you dropped your gold.

To fusi, that is true, but recalibration is only available to psvr and not everyone can do it, so it can’t be legal. The isle skip would be totally fine, as all people can do it and it doesn’t use outside sources.

Tbh it might cause some fighting about what is considered to be game breaking. To be hypothetical, imagine someone found a skip in golden to completely skip the act before the boss. You would probably put it in any% because there's no new glitches being used. But the old records would all be beaten very shortly once it got out. So you should put it in breaking% right? But again, it's just skipping a level, which is already a normal part of any%, and let's be honest it'll be a lot more brag worthy to say you're wr holder for any% then breaking%.

Take this paragraph with a grain of salt and please fight me in the replies over this.

Gonna give a forewarning that this is my personal opinion, and does not represent the rest of the mod team.

I have no problems with platform-specific glitches/bugs. In nearly every other speed game, there is one platform that is better for speedrunning than the rest. I say the same should apply here. The usual counterargument people say to this is that 'VR is more expensive and harder to get different consoles.' Now I don't know about you, but saying people can't beat the game as fast as humanly possible (basically the definition of speedrunning) because not every platform can do it is a pretty dumb argument to pose. Why? We already practice this on the site: VR and Screen categories. Everyone can speedrun the quest they want to, but they may not have the ability to do every category as fast as some other platform.

I understand that's probably not the consensus for most, so I would propose a solution. Rename Any% to NMG, No Major Glitches, and then add a new category called Any% (if you don't like renaming the current Any% then go ahead and make the new category breaking% or whatever). The NMS category would just be the current Any% category, and any new skips would be voted on by the mod team or the community to decide if they are legal or not. The new Any% category would allow glitches that any version of the game allows to be submitted and verified, even if it's only available on one or two platforms. This does NOT mean that any external sources could be used to gain an advantage (the definition of a cheat or hacks).

Now to reply to some previous comments in the thread. (also gonna refer to current Any% as Any% and the new category as breaking%) @Fusi "Its playstation only so then why not allow pcvr playspace?" One is a built-in feature into the watch, the other is an add-on to SteamVR. One falls under glitch the other falls under cheat. "Also is it really fun to watch 1.30min isle speedrun" Assuming this is sarcasm, the enjoyment you get out of watching a run shouldn't matter in regards to whether it's legal or not. @OrvillesPopcorn "it might cause some fighting about what is considered to be game breaking." I imagine it would first go to the mod team, and if there is a dispute or a mutual agreement that there would be a dispute over the answer, we would leave it to a vote to the community. "But the old records would all be beaten very shortly once it got out." This is very standard in an Any% category, it happens all the time. But if I were to come up with some rules off the top of my head, I would say anything OoB, and the current glitches are allowed in Any%. Any new glitches (telewalk, piercing, etc.) would be disallowed, and reserved for a breaking%.

Hate to say this fusi, but if you think this is bad, check out half life 2 any%. Not a single shred of the actual game is played. If people want to show skill in regards to killing enemies instead of skipping, then do glitchless 🤷🏼‍♂️

@RockLobsterOnRR i know its different game, they dont patch gamebreaking glitches, and its PC only, so its fair for everyone and theres also ANY% no void clip, because theres way more runners,123vs33 more people who dont wanna do stupid stuff. Its just like here in recroom, corn heard from some random kid about bug and started to use it on his speedruns, i personally dont wanna spend my time trying to reproduce that glitch everytime i wanna speedrun=)

Also yes its very common indeed game breaking glitches is found in every game. You instead look at what happened with GTA san andreas, there were like like 100 runners racing who gets game done in 4 hours, and suddenly "Powdinet" find a way to lower time over 3 hours, of course people got mad, and theres now Any% No AJS wr is 3h 41m 08s and Any% wr is 14m 13s.

People like you think why i am mad? well its because only my speedruns is beaten "not officially" moving 2x faster then you should, using game breaking glitch allowing use both locomotions at same time. This situation sucks specially because ANY% rules:Anything goes, except using external software and ANYTHING THAT CANT BE DONE ON ALL PLATFORMS. Walktele bug is not confirmed to work every platform. PC,QUEST,PS.

I’ve seen someone do it on PlayStation, I’ve done it on Pc, and corn did it on quest. It is technically available on all platforms. Either way, corn acknowledged that it’s not an actual world record, and he understood why it was rejected? So why did he upload the solo? Because you and goblin wouldn’t leave him alone even though he stated he realized why it was rejected. It’s not a record if it’s not verified, therefore you still have the world record.

And that’s the whole reason this thread was made. So any% can remain and breaking% could be for fun.

@Fusi this is speedrunning, and the point of speedrunning is to do it as fast as you can. Especially in what would be breaking %, this doesn’t have to be super complicated. And if people decide it sucks then they’ll talk to the mods about it. Why put limits on speedrunning?

ok lobster, buuut "So why did he upload the solo? Because you and goblin wouldn’t leave him alone even though he stated he realized why it was rejected." so why he still keeps going? heres video where he now trying to beat trio: corn and cat cheating but SH4D0WxRR not.

Also who was that playstation user, just curious? or can anyone with playstation comfirm? i wanna be 100%sure, because of this yt comment: Corn "The glitch may also work on PlayStation, I just never had anyone to try It. Allsfair is working on a way right now as we speak to get it done." And day or 2 later he replied here(allready deleted topic) corn: it may work on playstation.

Also lobster if you read comment on that video:

Not[MrRed] 10 tuntia sitten The glitch corn and super cat are using is kinda a little cringe ngl SH4D0WxRR 10 tuntia sitten I couldn’t do the glitch that’s the only reason I dident

LOL

@Fusi while it is harder on pc, it is still possible, and I’m workshopping a way to get it consistently

@CyclicWand i trust lobster that it works pc but pls if you have PS do clip where you use that

@Fusi I’ll work on it when I can get my hands back on my psvr or do it with a psvr friend

@Fusi my irl friend who plays PlayStation lol. And he’s uploading those runs to piss you off, so I guess it’s working XD

@RockLobsterOnRR cool send me link when done, it wont piss me off lol, its still game breaking bug.