I hate to make threads like this but i've noticed a #1 time is using the consumables for better/faster team ultimate rates and I disagree on using these since it's modifying the default settings, you also only get those from the gacha machine so using them in runs would require farming them each attempt.

I just want to bring this up since the rules talk about default settings but nothing about the modifiers.

I originally saw these things more similar to vehicle modifications rather than game-mode changes. My suggestion would be, if it turns out you have to use them to be competitive, we can make a leaderboard split, so that theres one subcategory for bonus boxes and one for runs without. I'm not sure if thats the case right now, given that only one of the current records uses them, but we're keeping an eye on that

Of course I'm always open for further discussion there if you have any other ideas or concerns

Having the extended ultimate boost on doubles it's time, so it's a pretty big buff. If they were like the custom parts i'd be fine with it but they get used up and require random pulls in the gacha to get more which makes them random to obtain.

I agree with Diablo. Mods are there forever, but box boosts you have to refill, and having to rely on luck to get the ones you need to even attempt a run takes the wind out of it.

Are you able to use backup save files to refill your stock? Are you willing to? Is the run more fun if you do?

These are just important questions to ask. I'm not leading anywhere.

would anyone be opposed to having subcategories for runs with and runs without bonus boxes? This would be a second row of tabs under no skips / skips, and would double the total amount of possible categories, but I think this would be the best solution to this

Wouldn't be opposed to it. If anything it's more options and might encourage people to submit times even one time

While we're on the subject, are we allowed to go back to the main menu after a GP to the mod pods to get more pods or will that count as an "extensive break"?

I think boost mods should be their catagory, I don't have any problem with them being seperated, I mean I would do a run or two with them knowing it's a different leaderboard for fun.

id rather not have people farm mod pods during runs. If you wanna use them, make sure you have them at the beginning of the run

I personally think mod pod items should be standard, and we should just restock them with a backup save file if need be. no farming needed.

They make the categories more fun to me, and add strategy to the 21 maps category because you have to choose 5 different items at a minimum.

let us know how you feel about them being standard, and restocked with saves.

Well, backup saves might be easy for PC, but not for consoles. I would definitely do it if I had the PC version though.

The reason why I asked the farming mod pods in the middle of the run is that the "extra boost" box is super OP, and having it more than 5 times would see significant time save.

I agree that the use of mod pods would require a leaderboard split. Farming mods during a run is definitely a no-no, imo.

I would really hate to roll back my switch save every time I wanted to do a speedrun because of the pods thing, if I had to do that i'd just move on to another game honestly.

I implemented the leaderboard split for No bonus boxes / bonus boxes. I think I sorted in all runs correctly, let me know if I missed something

from last place to first place due to category split heck yeah