Regarding Prototypes and Glover 2 runs
1 year ago
United States

Hi everyone, first off let me welcome everyone who has recently shown interest in this silly and fun piece of history. I first routed Pie% about 10 years ago, during the time I could spend a lot of time routing games. I created Pie% because not much else in the Beta really had a clear start and end goal in my mind. I had done runs with both Prototypes in the past, but due to the weird unstable nature with Proto (B) and how it had less to collect (skipping the treehouse melon and hub chicken egg), I just decided that runs would be done on Proto (A). Since this was just a me thing, I obviously never made this clear, since I was the only runner.

To my surprise to see that a handful of people have been interested in this, I first apologize for being absent. I don't speedrun anymore, nor have I had a lot of time in my life to check speedrun.com, so many people have been left hanging it seems.

So to cut this short, due to Lameshark's new WR using Prototype B, I have decided to split the category for both Beta Roms, so that people can have fun running whichever one that works for them. (I noticed that some people have had issues with crashes with Prototype (B)

If you have any questions you can hit me up on any of my social links and good luck on all your speedrun attempts!

Version Clarification: Prototype A - 2012 Team Carrot Release (Earlier Build) Prototype B - 2010 Team Carrot Release (Later Build)

I Love Pies Me, Zackcat

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Canada

do you know how long can beat game before it unplayble is any% possible?

United States

hey jojoretro,

This is all in regard to the Earlier Prototype, which I am a lot more experienced with:

I tried a couple of things out a long time ago in attempts to feel out something that resembles an "Any%" but the beta is just so fractured nothing came of it. I don't think there really is any reasonable way to add something of the sort, but you can decide for yourself and run the game however you like, but I don't think it will be something added to this board (for the time being). If people come together and decide on a reasonable and concise route for something like an Any%, then all means let it become real!

I also attempted to do something related to the secret teleport in the garden fountain that takes you to an unfinished race course of sorts, but it also just didn't have enough going on to create something tangible.

have fun

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Just to warn you there are at least 4 versions, not 2. Also, the version I'm playing [the newest] is the most playable overall by FAR, personally I think we should just all play that version LMAO. That's just my 2 cents.

According to some research I did today, the newest game is around 60 percent playable, thats why I deleted the any% its not possible [according to the cutting room, I'm still going to try]. I added a scarecrow percent because I've beaten that boss a few times its semi reliable if you don't break the sequence up. I figured I'd just add some more runs for levels/bosses/tasks that are actually playable. Some really fun stuff to do after you make the pie!

Canada

are you sure you mean is around 60 percent playable since i think is around 60 percent finished but does not mean it's is around 60 percent playable tho, i wonder how much is playble and if it's is around 60 percent how long really is that?

Canada

also what do you mean by break the sequence up? is there ways to skip sections?

United States

Yeah I see that Piko released some other beta later on. Which one did you use for your current run? I am playing with the 2010 Team Carrot release (which I assume is the one used in your run, Lameshark) but nothing triggers to progress the pie. I have deleted save data but Glovel wont interact, nor does anything in the world work properly. I will clarify versions better as soon as I know which ones being used thanks.

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Canada

i get pie to always work most tiem went i play it using rom while it in a winwar file so went i do that i normally get the pie all the time in i think prototpye B but i am unsure, maybe i just tired from it being 4:23 am but i think i am using prototpye B unless there a other version that pretty similar to prototpye B

United States

I think it would be easier to talk about stuff and clear up things if we had a better place to talk. here is a discord server I made for glover 2 rta https://discord.gg/kxwehme43R

I want to archive a few things here before I jump into a discord.

  1. Yes, there are TONS of skippable parts ... that's why I started playing Glover 2 a bunch because I was having so much fun Glitch hunting. I'm working on a glitch%.

  2. Any% is impossible. This is a proven fact. At least with the current versions.

  3. Yes, I'm sure they mean 60 percent is playable, but it's still unstable for that 60 percent you need to do things in a certain order etc. That's why we should just play the later version in my opinion ... it makes literally no sense to play the earlier versions. The earlier versions are just worse versions basically, even if the spell in the beginning is cooler.

  1. The pie glitch is weird I can't figure it out. The newest version [you are correct which version I used] just randomly doesn't trigger the text for the pie run like ... 40 percent of the time or something like that. I have no idea why. It's annoying as f$$k.
Canada

i fingure that issue out in the discord server, you have get fishign wizard get a fish on fishign rod and have no save data

United States

Yeah like Jojo said, You have to let the animation from when the Wizard drops his line into the water to when the fish bites. I created a savestate after this to use in runs, and it works every time. Thanks again to Jojo to figuring this out. I am adding it to guide stuff.

Also yeah I definitely don't want to stifle anyones fun or creativity in finding stuff in Glover 2. So yeah will love to see what cool things you put together Lameshark.

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