I don't even know if this is the right forum to talk about it, but I've been toying around with something in the back of my head lately.
How would a Skyrim speedrunner level all skills up to 100 quickly? I'm not trying to make a new category or anything, just kinda curious on how it would work out. From what I've thought of:
Start off with Fortify Restoration Loop. This will lead to Fortify Enchanting (don't make them to strong that they crash your game) and Fortify Smithing potions at the end, as well as 100 Alchemy. Sell an insane Fortify Restoration Potion for 100 Speech. Use the Fortify Smithing Potion to upgrade a few Iron Daggers for 100 Smithing. Next obtain the Fortify Enchantment for all schools of Magic, Alteration, Conjuration, Destruction, Illusion, and Restoration. With your Fortify Enchanting Potions you can craft gear that will reduce the cost of any school of magic by waaaayyyy more than 100%, meaning you can cast any spell for free. If you select the Mage Stone and get a Well Rested bonus you can level Conjuration and Illusion easily. For Conjuration, spam Soul Trap on a dead enemy (I killed a Giant near Whiterun and used that). For Illusion, spam Muffle.
I know how I want to do Alteration and Enchanting. Alteration I saw an exploit that if you use Telekinesis on an item and then fast travel to another city, your Alteration will level up during the load screen (as if your character was using Telekinesis on the item while traveling on the map). I want to verify it for myself before I say 100% for sure that it works. Enchanting you just need a valuable enchantment and go to town on some cheap weapons like Iron Daggers for awhile.
That leaves Destruction and Restoration for magic. I don't know of any exploits for those. Restoration might be tied with Light/Heavy Armor. Basically you'd continuously take damage wearing whatever armor type you want to level while continuously using a healing spell. That seems pretty slow though, not sure if there is anything else.
I think I saw somewhere that the best way to level your combat skills (One Handed, Two Handed, Archery and I guess you could use Destruction magic too) would be to continuously attack Shadowmere (since it won't attack back and has high health). I wonder if there is a faster way though. I also know that you can level Sneak and One Handed together by sneak attacking one of the Grey Beards with a low damage dagger.
So that leaves Block, Lockpicking, and Pickpocketing. I think all these need to be leveled up normally and there aren't any exploits or shortcuts for them. You could get the Skeletons Key to aide in Lockpicking I suppose. Pickpocketing could be used on trainers to get your gold back if you bought training for a skill that levels slowly.
Anyone have any ideas to add? I kinda want to make a route/notes for something like this.
How about duplicate Oghma Infinium and read it until you will be satisfied with the result?
This is why I ask these things lol. That method is probably the most efficient and effective out there without using console commands. I will try it when I get a character to receive the Oghma Infinium. Thanks, you just saved me a lot of time instead of me trying to figure the best way to grind skills.
So basically if you wanted a character to have 100 in all skills the fastest way possible without console commands would be to get your character to level 15, complete Discerning the Transmundane, dupe the Oghma Infinium as many times as needed for your skills, read it that many times. And you're done.
Guess I'll start looking into the fastest way to do that. I'm sure there's already some information out there to get me started.
Hey friend i am the one who attempted this and as far as what Chops says about tediousness do not get me started, when i attempted the run it was the summer time so i had a lot of free time on my hand and in total the run took me about 14 hours to complete that being said i am not the best at skyrim speedruns. I was also on console and did not know about the duplication glitch and it was just a lot of waiting at shops and using a speech glitch that has sense been patched but i agree i would just route instead of actually running this unless you want a 10 hour skyrim run to exist.
I know the bookshelf duplication method for the Oghma Infinium has been patched, but can you not duplicate it in other ways instead?
I see, that is unfortunate. I would want to work this out on the current patch. Maybe that means the initial stuff I had worked out isn't all lost then. So if you guys have any other suggestions I'm all for them. I know I'm not the best at thinking this stuff through.
I also agree with you guys; this isn't a good run category at all. I was just thinking about it and was maybe going to throw some notes together or something, test it once, and be done with it. Don't want to make this a category at all.
I would freaking love this and support it 100%. I would like a catagory for this. I recently posted my own forum talking about this. I already have a 12 hr run for this that I would like to submit. It would be fun to have one that was pre og inf patch also. Or even one that is just to 81 without getting every skill to 100 (so you could legendary skills). It would be awesome bc there are so many creative ways to go about doing this run that I would love to see and be apart of.
Hey friend. It's interesting that you revived this thread, because I had started working on this again about two months ago and have been messing around with it on and off since then. While I think the run is very very very tedious and boring, routing it has been very fun and interesting. The only thing holding me off right now is how long and boring grinding the combat skills to 100 is taking (One-Handed, Two-Handed, Archery, and Destruction). You could also share what strategy you did to see if I was on the right track.
For One-Handed and Two-Handed, I used the Fortify Restoration Loop to get to a point were when I equip the Amulet of Talos, it lowers the shout recharge time into negative times, essentially giving you infinite shouts. I found all three words to Elemental Fury. Then I duplicated a bunch of Vegetable Soup so I could essentially have infinite stamina for power attacks. Afterwards I would make sure I had the Warrior Stone and Well Rested bonuses. Then it was a matter of beating up Shadowmere with your weapons. For One-Handed I used a Dragonbone Mace in the RH and a Dragonbone Dagger in the left and continuously spammed the combination power attack. For Two-Handed I used the Dragonbone War-Hammer. I would get each skill to 95, then go and grab five skill books for each skill to raise it to the final 100, because it would take forever to get there.
For Archery I used a Dragonbone Bow with Dragonbone Arrows. That is when I took a break because after pumping 450+ arrows into Shadowmere and only getting to like 60ish, I wasn't about to pump another thousand just to get to 89 (5 Skill books plus 6 Archery Skill levels from Angi to get to 100). And I didn't even start on Destruction which is the slowest skill to level up I believe.
My notes are cobbled together over like three documents. I was actually planning on writing up a very nice and detailed document of what I discovered sometime when I had the motivation. Then I was going to do one run and call it done for good. I don't know if I'll ever reach that point, but if you want to collab on some of it, that should bring my motivation up more.
Hell yeah @theoblivinator. We should get in a discord sometime and I'll explain my method and share my stuff with you. Tip tho: you need to train your skills a fuck ton. If you do it right and not miss a training session each level, you can get most of those combat skills done.
I'm already in the Elder Scrolls speedrunning discord. I don't know if you have joined or what your username is there but mine is the same as this site, go ahead and ping me sometime or send me a private message, whatever you'd like friend. I took a break from this but I still have all my notes and still have an interest in finishing my route and trying a run at some point in time.
PS, I also figured that I would need to use training for the combat skills along with skill books. I personally haven't attempted to level Destruction since I know it is the slowest skill of them all, and I wanted to cut my fingers off after getting Archery half way.
