Rules on NTR usage
7 years ago
England

I'm thinking of running this game, i don't think i'll be good but i think it'll be fun, are there any rules on if NTR viewer is allowed to record gameplay?

France

No rules are set on this game yet, but NTR is known to make other games run faster, so I think it will be banned if Lafungo ever comes here again. Though, runs without video are fine here as long as you don't get WR, so it doesn't prevent you from submitting your times :)

Massachusetts, USA

I'm not familiar with what NTR is. Please explain.

Victoria, Australia

NTR is a hack for N3DS/2DS that lets you wirelessly stream 3DS gameplay to your PC, allowing for easy and cheap recording/streaming.

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France

^ That, but since it needs overclocking to actually record gameplay, it makes the game run at a higher framerate than usual. Which is actually kinda sad, because that would've been a good way to record runs otherwise

Massachusetts, USA

Sounds like a cool hack, but the overclocking/higher frame rate means that it isn't acceptable for speedruns.

Victoria, Australia

I don't think it runs at a higher framerate, it just reduces load times by a little bit.

European Union

it does neither require to overclock your device, nor runs games at a higher framerate / load games faster unless you activate certain cheats / additional functionalities. NTR Streaming by itself, if anything, lowers the framerate & load speeds, as it's running another application on your 3ds. You're effectively putting yourself at a disadvantage compared to an inbuilt capture unit. (You can see this most effectively with SNES VC, where NTR makes the game drop to 3fps)

[quote=cros107]a hack for N3DS/2DS that lets you wirelessly stream 3DS gameplay to your PC[/quote] 1.It's not a hack, it's custom firmware 2.Streaming is only available to New 3DS & New 2DS, as both 3DS & 2DS don't have the processing power necessary.

there's no reason to not allow it. if there's doubt, one can require per rules that the menu has to be shown if using it, as to ensure that no cheats are activated.

but while we're at the topic of this, @Lafungo could you please add N3DS to the platforms list? to make it clickable, click the "show obscure" button.

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Valhalla

It apparently messes with loads in Kirby Triple Deluxe so I believe it could affect certain games

Baltimore, MD, USA

well if someone does have NTR and mk7, they could test it

Saint Lucia

WHats ntr

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Victoria, Australia

@european_union No, while NTR doesn't overclock the 3DS, it enables the extra RAM in N3DS and N2DS, which MK7 doesn't use normally. Gameplay is still capped at 60fps but loading times are decreased. If anything it might speed up the 1 or 2 lightly laggy sections of tracks but it will barely make a difference.

Edited by the author 7 years ago
Victoria, Australia

No you need a hacked N3DS or N2DS.

edit: wait yeah you can only stream to PC

Edited by the author 7 years ago
Massachusetts, USA

Given how there isn't a clear consensus here on exactly what NTR does and its potential impact on MK7 speedruns, I'm going to say it isn't allowed. However, if someone can provide conclusive evidence that shows that NTR does not give any kind of speedrunning advantage for MK7, I see no reason to continue banning it.

I've also added N3DS as a selectable platform.

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