Canada@RapixOnGaming putting it that way I do see your point. Personally IDGAF if it does or doesn't so if there is enough want for it I am fine with it. However, who knows how long it may be actively run. If people want quick runs there is always Dino Colosseum :)
@RapixOnGaming people have actually been talking about this since I started running DC2. Unsure how many people would actually run it but could be a fun little run and I am pretty sure it would just get shoved under IL and not a main category on the board. Also after doing a race with easy any% my opinion has changed and I wouldn't mind it being a category.
@RapixOnGaming I just did a quick test of running to the Water Tower on PS3 with both physical and digital version. Both got an identical time of 1:48 which compared to PSP tests we did when testing the emulators was 1:31 (If & While) and Xtra did a test today and got 1:35. Compared to everything we allow (excluding PS1 as no one has tested it) PS3 is by far the slowest getting to the first save. I am under the assumption that is going to carry through the whole run.
The reason Farmery could get competitive times in DC1 is that IGT pauses during door transitions. So even if one loaded it instantly and the other took an hour, IGT should remain identical. Assuming all other versions act the same as the PC version, IGT is always running excluding pause, and options.
My only argument for PS3 being under PSN is it is still just emulating the game (to my knowledge.) Under that assumption it should be identical to the PSN version should it not? I might be crazy in my thought process though. I don't really care where it goes, but it should have a category.
If you look at the rules PSN does state Digital copy only, but I don't see why the disc wouldn't be accepted for it.
If possible could the solution be added to the thread just incase future people are interested? I didn't even see how it was achieved.
As someone who is currently (slowly) learning the game I would give it a +1 as well.
@picklewater I had the same issue, and the only way I got it fixed was for someone to send me their config file and then it worked fine afterwards ¯_(ツ)_/¯
As someone who uses Duckstation for Dino Crisis 2 I will say it is an amazing emulator that is easy to use and setup so it has my support.
From my very limited casual experiences with the game I haven't had that issue, and I did a quick search and also didn't find anything. Some games I have had to disable MTVU under speedhacks to get cutscenes to work, so could possibly see if that is enabled and disable it to see if it fixes it. What renderer are you using? Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will be able to give you hand.
@If_And_While I apologize, I don't know what's going on so I will just pretend nothing ever happened :)
@If_And_While my whole reply was to "Honestly, deleting the PC version from the leaderboards is the most right decision" It has nothing to do with "What a complicated game we are playing." It was irrelevant to my whole argument why deleting the entire PC board is a mistake.
@Vendettavic I apologize if that was how your took my comment, that wasn't my intention.
If you want to delete the board, we should just wipe every single category and start fresh. So every runner has a fair chance, regardless of platform.
@Dimension_Bomber How is deleting the PC leaderboards the correct decision? We have all been using a fair form of tracking time for years now, we just weren't looking in the right place. IGT has always been correct, we just trusted the old guard that they were accurate that it was broken. This decision doesn't involve door skip at all and shouldn't be even considered for this choice, that is something for a later date.
My issue with wiping the whole board is the countless hours EACH and EVERY runner has put into this. If we move to IGT, what is stopping everyone from just resubmitting their PB's. We have valid runs and a correct IGT in all of them. It's a childish decision to flip the table, everyone should just grow up and just accept that IGT has and always will be correct.
@Vendettavic How is it fair to Nazzareno that Xtra's game was marginally faster? I think it is more unfair of people losing/gaining time do to the uptime of the PC session. You know what doesn't change between their runs? IGT. It is equal to both of them, neither had an advantage on the other. It is the one variable that is constant between every single run on the leaderboard. No matter what way you go, someone is getting shafted. My vote is to go in the favor of what is the most fair value between all runs not just for WR contention.
Someone should make a separate thread and a google docs for everyone to put their vote on instead of this for clarity
If IGT is/has been working fine, I would say the correct thing would be going to IGT for ruling the board. The fact we can just run the game whenever we want sounds like a fresh of breath air and not feel like we are a ticking time bomb with playing the game. I do feel for Xtra however, with losing the WR by 1 second </3
Another benefit of changing to IGT is experiences like this. My first sub 50 PB I suffered from slow underwater and had an IGT of like 52:06 (Not 100% sure but was faster than Dimensions IGT.) It really sucked and was pretty demoralizing losing that time for something that wasn't skill related, and moving to IGT would eliminate any else from having to experience that feeling again.
It also opens us up to keep the current board open., and move it to "PC Legacy." If someone wants to try competing on old software they can choose to do so, without worry that someone will find some way to increase the FPS and have an unfair time.
I just checked the autosplitter, it has the IGT splits saved, so we actually probably won't lose anything TBH @Nazzareno.
I do agree with @Nazzareno. You could add the timer after the run and there isn't really a way to verify that, so it doesn't really prevent cheating (For everything but PC.) I would say its preferred to have it, but not mandatory (except PC where it's mandatory.) That is just my two cents.
