I really dont know the extent of just adding consoles, i just verify runs
Whoever updated the leaderboard for hyrule code mod
you didnt even put my proper IGT for Very Easy its wrong by 1s the leaderboard doesn't even show the times its broken along with the options being broken as well
I also found out my old pb was faster IGT than my hyrule code run which is legit and on console FeelsGoodMan, fuck emulator runs anyway 2s faster and I've submitted it I deleted the V-Hard Hyrule Code best time because its not important if its worse
I had no idea because we didnt use IGT back then 2016 goodness :D
Checking the hyrule position loses 1s IGT but gives more run odds (you can see the 2016 run does that) It might be manipulatable with RNG manip soon anyway
This proves a point, we used to be top 10 on speedrun.com. Changes need to be made
Category Extensions is mostly dead and not active
If you wanted that to be the main focus category for adventure mode you might as well combine them with a filter and hide hyrule code by default
Description: runs will be accepted with hyrule code but they will be hidden by default all runs submitted will need a previous broadcast / runs recorded to check if hyrule code is active
c-stick and ucf should still be banned, its a clear advantage and can remain in extension (barely anyone will run anyway)
If you want melee to survive on SRC I really recommend opening it up for more people. This also includes individual characters times for most modes which'll be a lot of modding but LOTS more people will run the game. People always ask me on my stream if that's a thing
The category for v hard wasnt ran for over 2 years and i just wanted to improve the record, literally no one else running it anyway after i had record. Previous wr pre-code is on YouTube
I actually had a time better than A rookies adventure mode v easy a long time ago with the hyrule code too, its still on my YouTube.
Trying to claim i cheat sure, i literally say on the splits hyrule code. Most of your post is offtopic and talking about my moderation for one submitted run when the topic is not that
you keep claiming to have discussed with people but who? Ive never been involved in these discussions yet im the main runner.
Theres not been a "community" vote or anything either, not even to add a hyrule code column just like sunshine hacked file (i feel you ignored that part). Just add hide code runs by default if you really care that much
Me and A Rookie are the only 2 competing in this category for VE, it should be up to the runners as long as its accessible
Imo bringing life to the game > keeping it dead When i ran this on stream people wanted to get into trying to speedrun it because it looked fun, resets on triforce would put off any new runners
edit: A rookie has said he doesn't really want to use it, given he doesnt have to anyway
Adding a filter on src is so easy and less messy than ext category. When submitting runs just ask if they use hyrule/c-stick and hide by default if necessary
If its a real issue to add a column just put both runs under extension and delete my other runs off src i don't care about them
Can we add the Hyrule Triforce position code into resources?
I can provide both action replay + gecko + file for Gecko/Nintendont on the Wii and the original smashboards link
I still feel like it should be allowed because running it without the code is so awful and doesn't change the run at all outside of just reset count
The VH Adventure WR already uses hyrule code and I just massively improved by VE pb by 7s
I'm completely fine with adding another column to speedrun.com to say if they used the code or not (like sunshine with hacked file)
Arguments For:
- More friendly for runners
- Higher Skill Ceiling
- Saves tons of real life time
- Way more enjoyable to watch + do
- Doesn't change the run at all, would be the same with the RNG (it's a reset in both VE and VH if you are going for world record with perfect RNG)
- Really easy to add the code on Dolphin
Arguments Against:
- Legitimacy
- Setting up gecko/action replay can be annoying for Wii/Gamecube
Can we please separate the difficulties on the leaderboard?
Weak is obviously not the same run as brutal difficulty
Can we please separate the difficulties on the leaderboard?
Weak is obviously not the same run as brutal difficulty
now my 1st place run comes up as 6th place on my profile..feelsbadman
it shoudlnt be allowed, you are modifying the game
RTA isnt accurate because every version had loading differences
but every other run didnt do that bewtsy why should he be allowed to do different?
Silo_Simon submitted a time that is 7:12 faster than my pb
I checked his video today for the first time after finding out you can skip cutscenes if you DO NOT have a fresh save file
so this means that he didn't use a fresh save file and skipped every cutscene in the game by using an already completed file (all victory bowser fights and unlocking bowser stage)
I calculated the time differences from our runs
My Run : 4:55:45
+0:32 Start timer difference -1:21 Space Land Cutscene -1:29 Mystery Land Cutscene -1:23 Horror Land Cutscene -1:12 Pirate Land Cutscene -1:09 Western Land Cutscene -0:10 Stage Unlock Cutscene -1:26 86 Bowser Land Cutscene
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7:38 Total (All Cutscenes - Starting time difference)
4:55:45 My PB
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7:38:00 Final Time: 4:48:07
Which is 26 faster than Silo_Simon's time if you follow his weird ruleset of not having a fresh file and skip all cutscenes
i dont see why this thread is still open honestly cause im doing runs without it lol
you mean fighting resets lmao
no one runs this category because if you are going for a good time you have to get good hyrule rng, and it doesnt change the time of the run
Im fine with doing another 1k runs to beat this time cause it wasnt even good, but my argument for the code to be allowed for this category and very hard is because it would bring more competition and right now melee speedrunning is super dead (adventure mode)
The end product is exactly the same, it just reduces the frustration of wasting tons of real life time to resetting over stupid hyrule rng. More people will run the category if its more enjoyable imo
I feel the top runners usually have the most say in each community, for example ZFG1 gets a big say in the rules for OOT 100%
I'm 100% ok if someone beat my Very Hard world record which took over 25k runs using the hyrule rng code, why? because I like competition and I've experienced about 305 hours out of 800-1000 hours just losing runs to hyrule rng and I'd rather people actually get runs tbh than do the same shitty grind I did.
One of the big issues with codes in melee to manipulate RNG is its very hard to manage whether someone used codes / not to manipulate certain things such as Hyrule RNG, Bomb RNG (Peach). If someone submits a run its nearly impossible to prove
I still think wii should be its on category along with emu
the problem with wiis are different versions + hardware usb loaders exist different bios exist
it all causes different effects on games
My wii for example uses Dios Mios to play gamecube games, when I play melee on it, it randomly gives me game could not be read errors during runs lmao. This is why I believe wii's are not very reliable to judge on.