This post is my opinion as a top speedrunner for this game. Economy 2.0 just came out today, and it removes government subsidies, which means having tons of cash and spending money all willy nilly is now a lot harder. I imagine runs will be harder to beat on newer patches. Im speaking about it the day it launched so I may not understand the full picture, ive only played the new update for like 10 minutes.
It could mean that runners will play on old patches of the game, its really common in speedrunning communities to play years old builds of a game (think minecraft 1.16.1 when latest is 1.21, or GTA 5 being on an ancient 2014 build of the game). Im totally fine with people choosing what version they want to be on. My runs have taken place over 2 versions, and no one called for a split of the leaderboard.
I do imagine people complaining about how unfair it is to compete with old school runs. My response would be either try to get really good and beat old runs with newer patches, or downgrade.
I do not support making a new category or invalidating all previous runs. While the Economy 2.0 patch has changed the game, I do not think the speedrunning leaderboard should split over this. I have seen other leaderboards do that and its really goofy when there's 2 categories for old and new builds of the game. I think a merged leaderboard is better, with players just encouraged to play on whatever build of the game is fastest.
Summary, I dont think we should split the leaderboard into old vs new runs. I also dont think we should delete all old runs. Runs uploaded afte rtoday should be on the same leaderboard as those before today. I think any version of the game is valid, as the speedrun is about running the game as fast as possible, any version of the game is valid and there is no reason the current build of the game should be viewed as more legitimate.
I am very bias as I just obtained a world record, meaning anyone who wants to beat it would need to either do a better run on a harder build, or downgrade their game to compete with it. Just saying where my viewpoint comes in.
I think the tryhard sweats will downgrade them game for speedrunning, while the more casual gamers will play on whatever build their game happens to be on, usually the latest. I think thats how it should be: if you care about min-maxing, downgrade, if you dont, dont.
Nah, pre economy 2.0 was definitely faster but the runs just weren't that good so they are possible to be beaten even in economy 2.0. Any% might be impossible though, unless a new method is discovered.
I think that if we should remove all the old brands, it doesn't seem fair to me at all. A bug was used that has now been fixed, it's not fair.
Not removing them discourages people from doing speedruns with the most updated version.
Im not really sure what bug you are talking about Jofre. All the current WR's except for Any% have been set on the latest patch. I think Any% should probably be split into pre and post economy 2.0 though. Although i dont think post 2.0 any% would be a very popular category as it would probably be a 3+ hour run with the latest strats (my run is insanely slow). I dont think there is any point in removing the times set on older patches for the rest of the categories since they are slower an i think most people would want to run on the latest patch anyways
