United StatesI'd also like to point out that the optimal time to buy the Boxer Shorts would probably be...in Snow Kingdom. So it would baaasically be Any% until Snow (picking up some Luigi Hint Arts along the way), then Bound Bowl, then get this one Moon. Not many people are interested in running Any%-until-some-point-and-then-do-some-specific-thing categories. These ideas tend to get rejected.
The only real run like this is Festival%. It's literally just Any% until Metro, then get the Festival Triple Moon. But what makes this category great, is you can convert a dead Any% run into a Festival% run, as long as your run died before Metro. This makes it slightly less frustrating when your run dies in Wooded or Lost.
My first thought when reading this thread was, "Oh, yeah, if your run dies before Snow you can just switch to a Frozen Nipple% run and still feel like you're accomplishing something. It can be like Festival%." But there are 2 problems with that. 1.) You can't just easily convert your dead Any% run to a FN% run. You would not have been collecting coins along the way and would likely not be able to afford the Boxer Shorts. 2.) Your run would literally have to die in Metro, or else you could just do Festival%, which doesn't require any extra coins.
So unfortunately it seems like FN% is in this weird limbo where it's not different enough from Any% to be super interesting, but still too different from Any% to fill a role like Festival%. It was interesting to think about at least.
Yeah, I'm on Team Procon. I ran the game with Joycons for a year, and having downthrows was nice, but my hands are just too big for the damn things. I would accidentally press the sholder buttons all the time because there was just nowhere to comfortably rest my fat fingers.
So when my Joycons started drifting, I bought a Procon. I loved immediately. It took literally one run to get used to. And since the stick is bigger, I feel like its easier to be precise with it. I don't miss down-throws at all. They're so incredibly situational, and there is always a Procon-friendly alternate strat that only loses a fraction of a second.
TLDR: Procon > Joycons Procon is more comfortable. Joycons are too small and prone to drifting. Down-throws aren't worth it.
Ah okay. That makes sense. Well I'm going to change my routes for Cascade and Lake then. At this point I've done a few runs. I'm just waiting until I get a half-way decent one to upload--still just trying to remember my routes. I plan on uploading a run and commentating/giving my thoughts on it. So far I'm having fun with this!
Ah, okay. Well then let me rephrase my question I guess. Does "Found With Lake Kingdom Art" count as a Lake moon or a Cascade moon? In your run, you count it as a Cascade moon. I personally think it should count as a Lake moon. My reasoning is that the game considers it a Lake moon, despite it actually being found in Cascade.
So in my route, I grab 6 moons in Cascade (one of them technically being a Lake Moon), and I only grab 7 moons in Lake.
Another question:
What's the deal with Hint Art moons? If I grab Found With Dark Side Art 1, located in Cascade Kingdom, does it count towards my 5 Cascade moons?
What if I grab Found With Lake Kingdom Art (also located in Cascade Kingdom)? Does that count towards my Cascade moons or my Lake moons? Or both? or neither?
This category actually sounds pretty fun. I may give it a try this weekend. Gives me something to do on my 100%'d casual file, and lets me experience something similar to Any% but without cutscenes. Routes would probably be significantly different in some kingdoms. I watched a little bit of your run and noticed that seed moons are very good, as they're basically just a bunch of free moons right next to each other.
Some questions about rules:
Can you collect a moon more than once? For example, can I grab the three seed moons in Sand Kingdom, warp to the Plaza checkpoint, and then grab the three seed moons again? I assume not. That would be pretty lame.
And what about shop moons? Are those banned? Can I buy one from each kingdom? Can I buy 10 from each kingdom? 20? Obviously it would be really lame to just start a run with 9999 coins, buy 20 shop moons in each kingdom, and then go fight Bowser. So this is something we probably need to clarify in the rules.
One thing that sounds annoying is having to keep track of my moons, since the HUD isn't going to keep track of it for me. But at least it's not as bad as Hardcore Talkatoo%, where you literally have to do math to make sure you have the right number of moons.
And yes, this run will probably be annoying to verify. The mod will have to count each moon and make sure you don't break any rules. But again, Talkatoo% is probably still worse to verify, and that's my favorite category, so...
So I had an idea. Now, feel free to tell me I'm an idiot if I'm wrong, but is it not possible to beat the game only collecting the one mandatory treasure on the first day?
Think about it. You could keep grinding the first cave, collecting dwarf bulborbs until the debt is paid off.
You wouldn't even need to get purple pikmin. The whole game could be beaten with red pikmin only.
Has this ever been attempted? Even as a joke?
