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topic: Postal 2
Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

Unfortunately you cannot set different timers for each category and since almost nobody runs SS, we kept RTA. I proposed to retime every run manually about a year ago, but people were still hoping back then that a load-removal script will work properly, so the idea was basically thrown out of window.

Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

Hmm, jump acceleration? :)

Shiinyu vinden dit leuk
Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

Most speedrunners lurk on discord servers.

Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

This could be an optical illusion caused by different FOV since a lot of Quake players use values above 100, creating a "fisheye" effect, therefore it seems like they are moving faster.

Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

My run is nearly perfect. You can get maybe 3-5 seconds off but not more. Lost 2 seconds on the first course due to bad rng and then another 2-3 due to a mistake. If you can somehow figure out how to not get hit by a single beam on turbozone course, you could save a few more seconds, but I have never managed to do it. I tried to brake before the beam that always hits you, but then you get hit by a different one instead.

As for the passwords, it only seems to be to progress in championships.

Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

Tbh the most (and imho best) popular game in the series is Lotus 3... and only I have ever done a run of it. I even had to create the game series because noone else cared :(

Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

Yeah, it's probably for the best.

Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

I checked your runs and it seems like you are given a specific amount of time for each checkpoint, but unfortunately it is never same, so I was thinking we would change the category to "Time left" and sort the leaderboards in ascending order (the more time left you will have, the higher on leaderboards you will be). What do you say?

Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

Btw, in Lotus 3 I found out that it doesn't matter at all if you use apexes or fastest racing lines. It has no effect on your time. Could be same for L2.

Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

We should avoid using livesplit if there is a way to get correct IGT.

Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

Added. What should be the category? Just best time, or hot lap? Does the game actually diplay it? I haven't really played L2 much, only L1 and L3.

Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

Ah, I forgot about that. Okay then, I will add them.

Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

Hi,

But you cannot select single stages (at least from what I know), which makes grinding them a bit frustrating. And I see there is actually no need for difficulty categories because there is just one game mode.

I only did one Lotus 3 run so far, because the AI can be really annoying, as well as that turbo-zone track with laser beams.

Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

Unofficial cars should be always banned in racing games on speedrun.com

Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

"and that solves what exactly?"

So you don't have to answer questions about who has WR, what is your PB, etc., which you refered to as "annoying garbage".

Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

"Just notify that person to change/remove run, no idea why is it so crucial to not have a wrongly submit run on leaderboard for few hours"

There is no PM system on speedrun.com and many runners have no contact info in their profile, unless you want to use Youtube which sucks for messages. No idea why having fake runs on the leaderboards is so crucial? Because everyone following the game receives a notification about new WR and it's also posted on the main page, which just confuses people, they ask on Discord, and it's just unnecessary trouble that could have been easily prevented.

"And no it's not better to prevent because out of 1000 submits maybe one will be fake"

It's not just fake runs, it's also runs in wrong category, accidentally paused timer in the middle of the run, etc. It happens often, trust me.

"I've already wrote why i want it disabled, because of it being so late, you get to answer shitton of questions about actual time/wr to beat or whenever you pb, why this run is not on leaderboard for over a week, plus most of time people get to know if someone beat their time not from page but from random person during stream who watched that other person's stream - all that annoying garbage because of this pointless system and lazyness of mods."

Why not add your PB to your stream layout until the run is verified, if answering this question bothers you that much?

"And holy shit, it's a video game and you're talking as if someone choosing to remove vods in order to fix irl stuff is no longer trustworthy,"

Yeah it's a "stupid" videogame, but unfortunately there are still people like you that want to be the best or troll the community, so they decide to cheat/submit a fake run, which is not fair to others, therefore it's necessary for other people (mods) to check every submitted run. As long as this happens, and I'm pretty sure it will, verifying runs will be necessary to prevent shit like this.

Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

"It's you treating people like idiots if you think they wouldn't instantly fix the error they are able to see on leaderboard just after submitting, you just wasted your and runner's time whenever you had to verify their run - happened to me as well."

Like I said, people often don't even read rules. What makes you think these kind of people will fix the mistakes they did when submitting a run? This is a real fact based on my and other mods experience. People make mistakes, period.

"Are you seriously making 1st april jokes an argument?"

Like I said, it was not just 1st April jokes. It actually happens regularly that someone submits a fake run. I once had to deal with a guy who submitted a new WR to NFS3 leaderboards while the footage was actually from NFS4 (both games share the same cars and tracks). And he did it twice. If that isn't stupid, I don't know what is...

"Other than that who cares if there will be one troll even few times a year who submits one run to delete. It's not a reason to make everyone wait a week+ and actual mods would delete it the very same day just as they would verify anyway."

Who cares? Most mods on this site do :) Let's not make speedrun.com turn into TG. Let me ask you a question, why exactly is such a big deal for you to wait one week for your run to be verified? Please explain it so I can better understand why are we even having this conversation. Also, isn't it better to prevent fake runs to be submitted in the first place instead of fixing it after the "damage" has been done?

"And no, if they would reject any of my runs then this site becomes completly useless because of simply not being legit with mods cheating and if someone is making my "history" an argument then they're just a real life asshole. Oh wait, i forgot that we've already found out that you treat others like idiots, so no surprise."

Ever heard of "Once a liar, always a liar?" I don't exactly know your history, but I did read some twitter post about you saying you cheated in your D2 runs, and now you returned and got WR again by a quite margin compared to 2nd place. Personally, I would be extra careful when verifying a run from someone who already proved himself he cannot be trusted. And yes, your history actually makes a valid argument in this conversation, because I could easily think myself "Hmm okay, this guy cheated before and now he wants to remove run verification. Is it because he wants to submit more cheated runs, hoping that mods will be lazy and won't check it afterwards? I wonder."

Maybe I have trust issues (which I probably do), but I've already had to deal with a few cheaters and even though they probably never cheated again once they got caught, there is always some chance they did, but nobody noticed it, because the cheater was much more careful and avoided the mistakes that got him caught.

Zaba, MisterMunkki, en TehArck vindt dit leuk
Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

"It's all useless. If someone has added run to wrong category then they will notice it instantly after submition when they see it in wrong category and can just edit it out by themselves."

Obviously you have no experience with this, because that's not how it works and never will. I can't even remember how many runs I had to reject because the runner didn't even read the rules, so hoping that everyone would fix their mistakes is very naive.

"Why does it have to be highlight?"

If it's not highlighted on twitch, it will be deleted after 40? days iirc, thus wasting everyone's time.

""There have also been cased when some trolls submitted fake runs that claimed to be a WR" - whatever, if that happens once every five years then mod can remove it, altough i've never seen it on speedrun sites that i follow."

Maybe you should visit this website more often, because there were literally dozens of fake runs submitted by "Todd Rogers" on 1st April. I think I also recall someone just recently submitting fake 0:01 run to Spelunky any% and it got through because the game didn't require verification back then (it does now).

"Even most popular speedruns like some marios that have verifications on with hundreds of runs per month get them done pretty much the very same day. It's literally two minutes to check everything even if you actually want to look if class and time are right. Having to wait over a week for that when you have few per week is more than laughable - "We do it in free time", well the thing is that you pretty much don't do it and If you still don't wish to do it, disable it."

This highly depends on how mods verify runs. For example I always watch the whole footage, often with 4x speed, but it still takes some time to do. If mods just check basic stuff like proper category and timer, then it can be accepted the same day for sure. If they are more thorough, especially when it's potentially a new WR, you have to wait a few more extra days. Deal with it.

"You can be happy that you even get accepted", hahaha, good joke, you just have no choice here.

Mods can easily reject your runs based on your history and yes, you should be happy.

LaV, TehArck, en Zaba vindt dit leuk
Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

The point of verifying runs is to caught cheaters, wrong last split, bad video quality, etc. If you think it's just clicking one button, you are damn wrong, unless the mods are really lazy.

Accepting run after a week is quite normal. Remember that mods do this voluntarily in their free time.

There have also been cased when some trolls submitted fake runs that claimed to be a WR. Mods would have seen through it.

Czech RepublicEwil6 years ago

Yes, you basically use 2 controllers for steering. A small input with your steering wheel and full-lock with keyboard. With DS you are able to make the very first turn on Olympic Square in like 280kph without using wallbump, which is not possible using just one controller. This trick might be possible using gamepad and keyboard.

Yes, it is allowed in runs (even track records), but nobody used it yet, because very few people actually know how to do it properly.

Btw, you might want to join our Discord server ;)

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