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Washington, USAAdeptOmega5 years ago

Hey folks!

So I've been digging a lot into Fox n Forest's kickstarter, etc, and as a nod to many retro games, the designers deliberately built in some cheat codes that can be entered on the title screen to do various things. In the linked clip, I briefly show off the 'unlock all levels' cheat code as an example:

Currently, the category rules do not explicitly ban cheat codes, although none of the runs or runners use them. I'm asking for us to consider banning some or all cheat codes from certain categories; there have been hints suggesting for example that 'start with all hearts' might be a code that exists. An invincibility code, if one exists, would break the game, etc.

In this case, even 'all levels' lets you immediately run to Spiteful Spider (3-3) and beat it, unlocking blue arrows - and automatically unlocking all previous arrows. This affects the flow and pacing of the game considerably!

Picture demonstrating sequence break enabled by use of developer cheat code:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3mo78b97h1ywz9x/FoxNForestsSeqCheat.PNG?dl=0

On the bright side of things, using something like this code could enable more unusual categories should the speedrun get more competitive!

We might however want to decide which categories, if any, allow the use of in-game cheat codes before it becomes an issue. A little foresight can save a lot of headache! Some games have 'no cheats' and 'with cheats' categories - do we want to do likewise? Only permit certain cheats?

Washington, USAAdeptOmega5 years ago

Hey! As the 100% route for this game includes purchasables (per category rules), I thought it might be helpful to put up a thread talking about money routing in the game, as that seems to be the largest barrier towards optimization.

I've been doing some analysis of my runs to figure out which areas have the best gold yield and figure out which detours are 'worth it' vs not.

By my calculations it takes 24,300 gold to satisfy category requirements (all hearts, all mana, etc), and an additional 150 gold if one desires to use potions to push through the first 4 witch phases (3 simple potions + 1 advanced one).

I have a few spreadsheets I can clean up and share if so desired.

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