So, for anyone unaware, the category currently ends by hitting the exit door of the alternate Stage 5. This is very anticlimatic, but unavoidable due to needing to do everything else in the game to be able to unlock said stage.
I have recently been informed that by entering your file name as X-X!V''Q (same as the luck mode name for SotN), it allows you do have all the stages already unlocked (but doesnt change your file percentage at all, you still start at 0% and have to do everything).
Using this would allow us to route the game a bit differently, both making Dracula the proper end of the route AND saving time over the current route. This would make the run both much more enjoyable to run, and much more interesting to watch. I see a LOT of comments in my chat about how anticlimatic the ending for 100% is.
So yeah, I want to get all of the mods opinions on this, and possibly open up discussion for allowing use of that name for the file.
I understand its anticlimactic but it also wont allow a true 100% route since it eliminates things that are required to make a level unlock possible. Dont think it is worth it just because it is an anticlimactic ending
it still absolutely allows a true 100% route, you still have to do all of the same stuff as we currently do to obtain 100% file completion. This would just allow us to change up the ordering of said stuff.
it fills the 100% completion yes but changes the route in a way that couldnt normally be possible in any other file name (like you mentioned, requirements for secret stage 5) i meant more in that it changes a requirement for that level by having it unlocked, not unlocking the level itself naturally thats my main gripe with it
I dont think it would really affect the time of the run at all (as far as i know). I just wouldnt do it myself since it changes required things and unlocks all the levels off the bat
it would affect the time by a few seconds, since we would be ending time on orb grab after dracula (currently after drac we have to sit through the end of stage fanfare, and soft reset when the ending appears). it wouldnt be anything overly significant though, like 4 to 5 seconds
i wouldnt be opposed to 100% luck mode being a seperate category. Hell id love to end on dracula, only reason i oppose it being called true 100% is because it uses file specific things to change an element of the game not normally there thats my main thing, just beign a bit of a purist i suppose. But if it was seperate id be ok with it
well, after i get sub 37 with the current hundo route, i plan on trying a few runs with this file name and the different routing. whether that ends up being a new category or part of the existing one, whatever, lol. my personal opinion is like yours, KK, 100% is 100%, as long as you obtain the 100% on the file select screen it shouldnt matter how.
Where my opinion differs is that i think it should just become part of the current category, but thats why i started this thread, to get everyones opinion on it.
i mean if i am the monority and other people think its for the better i wont care. im all about democracy, EVEN IF ITS WRONG jk of course, but im curious to see what the time difference would be at least
could rename the current 100% to 100% no special names or pure 100%, and have what im proposing be 100%, or keep the current one as 100%, and the route im proposing be 100% stage name. or something along those lines
i dont like the luck mode part of it, since its not luck mode (just uses the same name as sotn's luck mode). im trying to think of a better thing to affix to the name than that, but im coming up blank right now, lol
upon further thought of it i dont necessarily oppose it that much. hesitant at first but really it is still 100% completion and it wouldnt really effect the game and other categories overall plus marias ending is adorable my inner purist was a bit against it but i guess it really wouldnt effect much of anything really. especially since its purely for benefit of going faster
well from rippers last post, it seems hes on board with allowing it also now, so id say 3 out of the 4 current runners is enough, lol. gonna start doing some runs with the new route ive theorycrafted in a little bit here.
anyways, heres the route ive come up with using this filename: start game, do current route up until after stage 5 and the cutscene following it, when you start in stage 6, soft reset. pick maria, start back at stage 1, do the alternate stages, after finishing the alternate stage 5', continue on to do 6,7 and dracula
Also yes im for it also this route sounds about right to incorporate the final battle as the final battle. Will test runs myself at some point
yep, all its really doing is removing stages 6,7 and Dracula from the middle of the run and putting them at the end
now, this is still all theory at this point. entering that name should allow us to get to alt stage 5' after killing carmilla, however, it could very well still just dump us into normal stage 5. thats something ill find out in a little bit here.
nah, i didnt wanna put time into testing and trying it until i had some form of a consensus about it first
with that said, ill be going live in about 30 minutes to try it out
