There are a few categories here but I was wondering if we could make a no ram manipulation category. I find the ram manipulation sort of boring but would like to see what we can do with just glitches. I was thinking any glitch that does not involve the menus being used as ram manipulation being allowed/

old nsc route: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v2y8RcBh9PE6Sww4w90Sy-Zoa0KaTRAGv-7Is8sFqY8/view

Tbh I liked the old route of NSC before manips were a thing

Samen the new one relies too much on RNG.

so could we get that made an actual category? I mean i don't know who gets the say all end all on this but i think it would be a good idea

i mean the mods have the final say so idk

I would be in for that :)

I like the idea and completely agree

You can still run the old NSC route if you want to and just submit it under the current category. Just know the time won't be in the least bit competitive. Best time was 12:59 (charmander manip route) and 13:30 (bulba ditto route) iirc.

but that's not the point. I get that I can do this but I don't want to just run for my sake I want competition and I think this would be a good way to get that started. it seems like some others agree as well.

Can always just do the run then use the PSR forums to hold a pseudo leaderboard and maybe get it approved to end up on SRC if you really want to.

that aint a bad idea either

please don't do that, charmander manip is crap

still better than bulbasaur?

It's faster, but is a lot harder and not fun since you will be reseting a lot

The title is literally “no RNG manip”. ???

Wait so wasn't this no manip thing supposed to use the pp/pidgey strat?

Yes, but he means charmander manip. As in the cooltrainer route.

well if this category becomes a thing then that shouldn't be allowed

The current process for getting new categories like this to be a thing is to make a forum leaderboard with a few times on it to show interest. Here's the forum:

http://forums.pokemonspeedruns.com/viewforum.php?f=151

Read the Rules post at the top and then feel free to add one there