Migrating Burnout 3 IL times from Cyberscore
6 years ago
Northern Ireland
escape209
Any/All, He/Him, She/Her, They/Them, It/Its
6 years ago

I'm struggling to find a good way to explain this, but to put it simply, there are nearly 2000(!) IL runs for Burnout 3 on Cyberscore for all the different tracks combined, relatively few of which are accounted for on this site's B3 IL boards. Not only that, but speedrun.com is growing pretty fast, and cyberscore is nearly unheard of now, so having those runs here for more accurate and representative leaderboards would be good help for the game to grow, and really, being accurate with what runs were actually done in the past is important to me.

Obviously migrating all of these would be ludicrous, so I thought migrating the top 10-20 for each track would suffice. I was thinking doing this might turn a few heads, so to anyone with a bit more authority on this site, would it be alright for me to go ahead with this? Thanks!

Bewerkt door de auteur 6 years ago
Antarctica

The general consensus is that site staff stays out of things like this because they leave game/community decisions up to the members of the game/community. In other words, they want to interfere as little as possible.

So, if it’s what you and the other B3 runners want to do, I’d say go for it. You won’t need permission from the site staff to do it. Now if you want opinions from people that’s fine and all. My 2 cents on it is that the Burnout community hold the opinions that are most valid here (and it might be good to check with the people who posted the times on Cyberscore to see if they are okay with having their times posted here on their behalf).

Habreno vinden dit leuk
United States

Thought I'd pop in when I read this topic as this subject has been brought up numerous times in the past and I want to make a clarification on it. I administrate Cyberscore and want to offer what I feel about this issue (and what our userbase feels as well). Mass scraping/importing/migrating submissions from Cyberscore to any other site is absolutely unacceptable as far as I'm concerned. This also applies to manual migrating on any scale. Not only is it unfair to our site, it's unfair to the users whose submissions you copy over without their permission. If you wish to have people's times from Cyberscore on the leaderboards here, you should contact them directly and ask for their permission to add them, or have them submit the times themselves (the better option).

I understand the desire to have data centralized on one site, but you must respect other communities' wishes. Although speedrun.com is popular, Cyberscore has been established for many years and is growing healthily. Regardless of your feelings about Cyberscore, my points stand.

Bewerkt door de auteur 6 years ago
Imaproshaman, Lafungo en 5 anderen vindt dit leuk
France

Yeah what Pokemon said. You shouldn't remove the runs from Cyberscore.

You certainly can copy the times over and the usernames, and even the video links if they're hosted on a third party site like YouTube, which has its own policies and user controls about sharing.

Bewerkt door de auteur 6 years ago
Imaproshaman en DracaarysTrophy vindt dit leuk
Scotland

If you do feel bad for taking peoples vids and stuff unless they are on youtube and such my suggestion would be to take the top time or such on Cyberscore and then make the time and stuff but instead of a video link to the Cyberscore page or something of that particular time, its a nice compromise. I have seen people do that with SDA and stuff in the past.

6oliath vinden dit leuk
United States

If you're going to do this, I'd say top times are enough. Don't link any videos directly, even if they're on youtube. If you sourced the information from Cyberscore, that's the link that should be provided. This gives credit where it's due and reduces the need to keep the records in sync.

Maybe it's enough to just create a forum post that links to other leaderboards, make it sticky.

Monmouthshire, Wales

Have Speedruns here, leave Time Attack/Time Trial (it makes me cringe whenever I see it called IL) to other sites which already have large established rankings.

The F-Zero games are a great example of how speedrun.com does it correctly and respects other sites.

Lafungo vinden dit leuk
Esperanto

It doesn't even look like records there are actually proofed at all.

Imaproshaman vinden dit leuk