Leaderboard Changes
2 years ago
Pennsylvania, USA

Greetings fellow Lumione runners! I petitioned to be added as a moderator a few days ago after a few of my own runs were left unverified for several weeks. When I got moderator access I discovered a run sitting unverified all the way back from November 2021, so they really seem to have checked out completely.

It's really cool that the dev. team tried to build their own leaderboard, but from their choices it's clear that they didn't have a lot of experience with speedrun.com, so I'm making some immediate changes in order to make the leaderboard more attractive and less frustrating to use.

Although I moderate a fair number of games I've never asked to "take over" a leaderboard from someone else before, so to be fully transparent I wanted to document everything I changed.

  1. Removing milliseconds. Literally zero of the runs so far submitted have milliseconds as anything other than *.000, nor does the in-game timer allow us to see milliseconds anyway.

  2. Changing individual chapters from "Misc." categories to individual levels. This is precisely what the IL list is supposed to be used for, so it's odd that the devs put these in as separate full game categories.

  3. The new ILs will now have both Any% and 100% categories. Previously there was no category for 100% (All Star) individual chapter times.

  4. Removing "Real time without loads" as the primary category. In fact, removed it altogether. Nobody seemed to have been bothering to try to retime runs with loads removed, and I think having three different times was just confusing everyone. Moving forward there will just be "real time" and "in game time".

  5. Adding "Prologue" to ILs because why not have a complete set.

  6. Renaming categories to Any% and 100% to fall in line with speedrunning conventions. The old categories names will still be in parenthesis.

Todo:

  1. The original rules from the developers currently remain in place. I feel like there is a cleaner and more clear way to rewrite these, but I will take that on later.

  2. There's a bug in chapter 3 where the in game timer stops incrementing (and hides), this is annoying because the IGT seems wonderfully accurate for every other chapter. I don't have an immediate plan for how to handle runs where this happens, so it's still up for discussion.

  3. Anything else the nascent Lumione community is interested in seeing happen with the leaderboards is now up for discussion, so please reach out to me or start a thread if I'm missing something!

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Hungary

Thanks a lot for cleaning up the boards, Ellipsis! Looking forward to submitting a valid run soon, as I saw that now Any% is unsegmented (as it should be). However with the developer's rules, 'all chapters' allowed grinding out each level and put the times together in a segmented video. My PB video for example was made in line with those rules.

Pennsylvania, USA

Oh man, I never realized that any of the runs in the full game category were segmented, thanks for pointing that out!

Being honest, even reading their rules now I don't get the impression that the submission can be done from multiple attempts and segments... but while I have half a mind to delete the run from the leaderboard, that feels disrespectful somehow because all of your stuff was there long before I took over moderation.

How would you feel about me taking your segmented run out of Any% and putting you up on the 5 IL instead? You won't have to resubmit, I'll take care of everything on my end.

Hungary

That sounds good, but I'm fine either way. It isn't a great time and even at the time I wanted to do single segment but felt like I could get a better time segmented for the developer's speedrun challenge.

Pennsylvania, USA

Understood, thanks for working with me on this. I have converted your run over to the IL table so you should find yourself there. Looks like you had an older run that was single segment, so that one came back up on the leaderboard when I removed the segmented one.

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