oooo I've gotten that before too I always wait for the platform to stop being slightly translucent before I jump now

Alrighty well I have a list of weird glitches and what not that I have found and recordings of them. I will list the ones I know about in hopes it will help you find some and I will try to help find new ones, but first I have a few questions about the ones you have found.

Fist off what is that milkshake glitch on? I have found that if you jump into the milk shake but double jump right before you hit the floor that you pick up the milk shake but don't do the animation till you are sitting on the floor. I've seen this on pc a lot more than I think I have n64 but I have footage of it and its not hard to pull off.

this one is really important to me so if someone could help out that would be nice. HOW do we do the nephew glitch? I have been trying for ever to figure it out but there's no guides of it or anything. Has it been done on any official copies or has it only been done on emulation? The glitch you found there is similar to TADS (Time Attack Dance Skip) that both I and AMathMonkey found on our own. Basically you can cancel special animations like the dances at the end of time attack by jumping onto the platform before the dance starts and then pressing b either right before you land or during the animation. I think that would be good for routing the n64 runs for 100% though. If it works on pc too that would be great so I'll test it as soon as I get help with the nephew skip.(pls halp)

The skip on level 3 I tried to find as well. After you mentioned it before hand I tried all sorts or different ways of choosing the levels in hopes of finding it and was unable to. to recreate it it would be good to note anything you did during it since we do not have the footage. The main ones that come to mind are: Did you reset the game before hand and load the file? What stage did you skip? How many lives did you have? and did you do anything special to open the boss fight? If you give that information I will try to grind it out. If we can recreate it once on video then it will be a lot easier to figure out from there.

Yeah the first boss has some interesting moments but they all don't seem like they could make the process faster just kinda weird position things. you can actually just ride her all the way up on her head and when you defeat her you can land on her foot and move with her falling animation while in the boss victory animation which is pretty fun.

Alright so stuff I've found.

You can fall through the floor and die instantly. I've experienced this multiple times where you jump and you just fall, hit the ground and start the falling animation on the ground and die. The most consistent way to go on the level under'hand'ed and kick as you fall down the first set of stairs. Don't know if it can be used to open things early

There is a weird momentum momentum thing. with some platforms and ledges, if you kick while next to or on the edge, you get a very small boost that propels you a little bit forward.

With boss #2 it is possible to skip the cut scene after you beat him. I did this on accident and I have yet to figure out why it happened. I think the run was on pc but I will check and get back on that.

Only useful for under'hand'ed but in the middle of the animation for the hand running away on the n64 version you can move again although the movement is a little off. You can start the cut scene that follows by moving into it saving some time and giving a unique camera angle.

There's the TADS which I said earlier

and there have been times where I have floated to the top of the screen. I remember with the hands specifically on creepy corridor being able to use the arm parts of the platform which flew me up to the top of the screen.

Hope that helps.

Does this skip benefit 100%? If you still need to collect the bears and do the time attack in order to get the 100% it will still save a little bit of time travelling in between the pads in the over world, but other than that it shouldn't change much.

AutoGamerZ thanks for the heads up on the skips in World 2 and 3, I'll try to find them.

Its hard to get the pc version to run on windows 10, but AMathMonkey found a way. if you want help getting it to work message me on discord( UIJess#9421 ) and I'll get you set up as best I can.

For me I still have mine run fullscreen, but I use a 2nd monitor in order to keep track of my splits. Although, I think I know how to get it to run windowed for you.

Also thanks for providing more incite on emulation.

I wanted to discuss what versions of the game are best to run each category and also talk about a possible change to emulation

With N64 I think its the best for any% because in the PC version its impossible to skip the ancient fate level and I have yet to test it on DC but considering its OS is based on windows it was probably also patched.

With N64 emulator there doesn't seem to be as much of a problem with random slowdowns as there are on the actual n64 console. I've recently completed an any% n64 run without dying and using the major skips and ended up with a time of 48:38. This leads me to believe since there's probably a 1:30 minute range where maybe slightly different routing may have added time that there would be an extra minute and a half or so that is saved by running emulator.

I would suggest we do something like move the emulator into its own category, but I feel like that's not something that is okay for me specifically to push. I'm one of 3 people that used a legitimate copy of the game in any%, I cannot post my any% run because obs stopped my recording of the run at random points(I can dm show it if you dm me) and I'm not even close to the WR. If we all feel that way however I think things should change

PC is the fastest at running the game but its inconsistent. There are times where you start the game and it runs faster than the last time. this is a problem with the game that we kinda just have to live around unless we work together to figure out another option(willing to take down my PC runs if thats what it means to make things fair). Due to its faster gameplay and the lack of the ancient fate skip I think this is the fastest for the 100% category.

is there a point to running DC?

Do you think at some point we might end up banning emulators or that they will be here to stay?

Hey, I could do it if you're still looking.

I've been fairly inactive recently, but not that someone is competing with me I plan to be on a lot more.

Also would like to help make the submission process faster any way I can.

:)

o_o well that was easy, I got it to work.

I used it on my laptop, it doesn't seem to like multiple monitor set ups and doesn't like to be tabbed out of. it also sets the screen resolution to something specific so it can work.

It loads a lot quicker than I expected, so it maybe worth the switch

I'm sure there has to be a fix for it somewhere. I actually just got a copy online recently, but I had an error where it didn't want to launch. Not exactly sure whats causing it, but if it really saves that much time, we should probably figure it out.

o really? so there's no presets in settings or anything we should use for it?

Sweet thanks man

I would be interested in this too, if anyone has the time.