Not sure if someone has asked the lb mods about this already, but I was curious what was the lb mod's opinion on allowing laser dome skip to be a thing for pc data org runs since I haven't heard/seen anything about it. This thought came to my mind when you guys allowed gummi skip and credit skip to be allowed on submitted runs. I thought it would be good to ask this while the amount of runs on the pc data org lb's are currently low and the process of allowing modded runs are starting to become a thing for the lb's.

In the case people who aren't familiar with what I'm suggesting, in KH2 randomizers, you are able to completely skip the laser dome sequence by reducing Final's Xemnas to 0 before he recovers from stagger after reaching the HP gate for laser dome (normally you are not able to do this since the game leaves his HP at 1 until you go through the whole laser dome sequence and cutscene). Basically, this will save about ~89ish seconds of time per run that beats Final Xemnas.

I will say that this could potentially impact the speedrun (outside of just letting the run be faster due to skipping laser dome) since it would theoretically allow RNG manipulation post Final Xemnas, but I haven't really tested that with the laser dome skip mod if that is true.

Also, I'm not sure what else the community thinks about having something like this for data org runs, but it would be interesting to see what other people think.

https://www.speedrun.com/khmg

1. 1-2 days for a run to be verified is pretty fast imo. I don’t know how it is for the other KH games since I'm not a mod for them, but for me, I try to check speedrun.com for runs every other day. Though I have a pretty packed schedule (I work full time, try to be active on speedrunning, and other daily things I deal with), so verifying runs isn’t the first of my priorities (but hey, I try). For KH2 specifically, because of the splicing incident with Moon last year, runs need to be carefully verified. Expecting runs to be verified immediately is just entitlement. I don't know what's "acceptable" in terms of how fast a mod should verify a run, but if this is the expectation of how fast a run should be verified, then I would say many of us aren’t cut out to be leaderboard mods https://imgur.com/a/Lgxm2GD (this is InsertLogic’s previous WR 2:53:20 Any% Beginner Run)

2. I won’t deny inactivity of other mods verifying runs or just in general, but this isn’t the only responsibility that mods have. Logistics such as updating the ruleset or determining new categories is also done. How often the latter is done or made public is another conversation.

3. Fair point, I don’t agree with keeping people who had huge influence in the community in the past, but aren’t active atm.

4. I don’t necessarily agree with x person can only mod a game they’ve run and are knowledgeable of. For me, I don’t consider myself knowledgeable in KH3 despite doing runs when the game released, but apparently I’m a KH3 mod (which I never asked for btw).

5. I never really liked using Discord as a medium for “lb talk” since I’m sure not everyone checks discord all the time (at least I don’t), and a lot of discussion gets lost as time passes. This results in a lot of miscommunication which leads to situations such as right now. For issues like the timer rule, Saiyanz did make a forum post about it, but I guess the KH2 rules weren’t updated to represent that. I’ll say that’s on us, and I fixed it myself, however, I wish one of the KH2 mods were pinged, DM’s, or even better, made a forum post on the kh2 speedrun forum, rather than straight up saying “that the mods don’t care.” Nothing good comes out of calling out people without approaching the people individually.

6. I was perfectly fine with the merge itself since I suggested this a while back for 2FM, but I do wish there were more people involved in it in the early stages. It definitely seemed like a solo project for Saiyanz, so communication seemed really bleak, but that may because of a difference of time zones for the mods. Though props on him for doing a lot of work on it, and I know a few other mods chipped in to help out in the end process of it.

7. I’m fine with this change, but discussion of changes in general usually die out pretty quickly since not much communication happens.

8. This is dumb and no runner should be obligated to submit their runs. I can see where Desa is coming from, but this has nothing to do with being a leaderboard mod (which this whole pastebin is about) and this is more of a personal issue.

9. Kind of touched on it a little on 5. I’ve verified a few runs without timers, so I didn’t know this wasn’t clear at all since I assumed Saiyanz’s post was sufficient. But I guess the rules not being updated was the issue, and like I said before, I wish the mods were more directly contacted to resolve the issue since I was not aware of it until recently.

10. I agree on this. This is definitely the biggest catalyst on everything and it goes hand in hand with communication with the community and amongst the mod team itself. Amongst the lb mods, stuff like the KH2 CE, I wasn’t really on board about, but the lb page was made without proper discussion. In addition, stuff like “what determines if a category is added to these boards?” were never discussed enough or at all, so whenever someone discusses a potential new category, there’s always a grey area on this since the former was never discussed coherently. For my personal opinion, I don’t like creating new categories out of individual people’s interest. I’m open to new categories, but only if there is FOR SURE going to be multiple runners and some longevity. The KH1CE board definitely has some runs in it, but it’s depressing at the same time seeing all those “empty” tabs on it and it makes me wonder why were these created in the first place.

11. This could happen to anyone. I see no reason to individually call out Sonic on this. Remember the whole speedrun.com site was affected, not just the KH lb’s. It’s unfortunate that this happened, but fortunately the admins of the website were able to resolve the issue quickly.

I have a lot more to say (and I probably forgot to mention other things), but for the sake of time, these are my initial thoughts. To me, this whole situation seems like a redux of what happened during the last reformation of the lb mods. The people (including myself) that stepped in at that time temporarily solved the issue, but it ended up going full circle in the end (and here we are). Because of this, I’ll be stepping down as a KH2 leaderboard mod since obviously I feel like I won’t meet the criteria the community has of the leaderboard mods, and IRL for me has been busy for me lately (and will be busier later in the year) so I guess this is good timing for me to do this since I’ve been thinking about it for awhile anyways.

There’s definitely change that is needed for our community, and if people want to step up, I wish them the best of luck and hopefully the issues presented can be resolved.

This is sonic's save. Hopefully it works!

http://www.mediafire.com/file/iijuoh922ovv69c/LV1+Data+Org+RTA+Memory+Card.rar