The one in 13 definitely is possible without super object throw. Don't know about 12, never really tried that.
You just need to practice and move your mouse really quickly. It's not really hard, but you don't really need to cube throw. In 00 it doesn't save a lot of time, same in 09, same 13 :/ so don't do it
in chamber 12 : Don't do it. I do it but it's really hard, you need a LOTS of practice. And it save only 3 sec.. you have to move your mouse really quickly.
Starting now and currently being grandfathered, all console runs will be manually retimed with load times removed. This process will be redone by the verification team anyway, so don't worry about doing it yourself when submitting. Massive shoutouts to Tactix1 for doing this basically single handedl
