Honest about all this
4 years ago

Hi, i've made a post that got locked https://www.speedrun.com/mcc/thread/lznob (Ban SpaceByte for self-validating runs), and i've been called a Hater, etc, just for sharing my point about this. I like watching speedruns of many games, but all this category (Minecraft classic) for me seems to be less of speedrunning and more of self-ego of saying "I'm the best at X in minecraft classic", because, this category was created just weeks ago, and all the runs are not interesting in any way. Just look at the categories:

  • Reach Bedrock (1s) (autoclicker ftw)
  • Place All BLocks (18s)
  • Build limit (7s)
  • Tree% (4s)
  • Border% (3 frames, 0s)
  • Etc...

I got a feeling that all alongside this minecraft classic category is ciclejerking, there is not real value on this runs, no spirit, just a lot of small and redundant run-categories. What is next? Loading%? Moving%?

Also, being honest with all of you, the other closed post i forgot to mention that the one mod that self-validated his own runs, also made the rules, but nothing of this matters for me if there is no point on the runs.

It's okay if you don't appreciate my opinion, and it is what i expect from all of you, but please reconsider all this runs categories, add something valuable, for example if the world is limited, you could do an All Tree% instead, that would take considerable time for the player to do, and it would be more dynamic that just luck and brute-skills.

Anyways, im not part of this community because i dont do runs on this, but please consider my point

Best, Brian

Indonesia

The reason you were called a hater is because of the title of the thread. You claimed that a Supermod should be banned from speedrun.com for doing things that are allowed in the rules for speedrun.com and how you shared point came out as attacking SpaceByte.

I see your point that most categories are short, but what can we add? All Trees wouldn't work since worlds can generate with 0 trees so the WR would be 0.001 which is shorter than any category we have, it would also be a nightmare to verify since there could be a single tree left that's out of view. Minecraft Classic is really limited in what categories it can have, we can't have categories like Any% or 100%.

People don't brag about having a WR in Minecraft Classic since we have respect towards other runners.

The mod team listens to people's opinions since they might have a good point like what happened in this thread ( https://www.speedrun.com/mcc/thread/fu40i ). One of the closed threads you were talking about was an announcement since we decided to change the rules for that category and removed the 2-3 runs that were already submitted. Do you think mods are just added randomly, if so then the answers is no, we don't randomly make people moderators, since they could be bad at verifying runs or just be disrespectful to other people, that's why the rules for being a moderator are strict to prevent such a thing from happening.

Some people grind for 18 hours, if that's not putting your spirit into running a game then I don't know what is. I see your points but the game is very limited and your suggestions wouldn't help. I hope that at least answers most of your questions.

Best, Insert

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EpicCrossover, birj, 그리고 MrMega 이것을 좋아함
Nigeria

@braincraig This is a quite usless, Considering the run categories were the only good things in the game, Spacebyte Self Validating is allowed, Besides he changes his runs according to he updated rules.

EpicCrossover, MrMega, 그리고 Insert 이것을 좋아함
Nigeria

Also, If your not gonna like the cats then why run on it. Hating on the categories isnt sensible considering its CLASSIC Minecraft WITH THE OLDEST Stuff, there isnt much that comes with it considering it was made IN 2006 We can't reconsider the categories when they is nothing to replace it with.

EpicCrossover, MrMega, 그리고 Insert 이것을 좋아함
Pennsylvania, USA

@briancraig Ok I am just going to say that you spamming the forums does not help your case. You act like the victim when you are literally trying to get someone who did nothing wrong banned. We don’t take to kindly to that around here. So this is your last warning. Stop with these posts and kindly fuck off. Thanks.

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EpicCrossover 그리고 Insert 이것을 좋아함
United States

I understand that you would want better categories for Minecraft Classic considering it's a very well speedran game. But a few reasons why what you have said clearly has no evidence to support the claims you have made.

1.Your first forum post for attacking a super mod because of a simple mistake of a self-validated run(people make mistakes, I've made plenty for this game) still has no valid reason for going after the mod because of how he did the "run" and all of that.

2.This game was made more than 10 years ago. And for a web game, it still holds up as one of the all-time classics, and a wide selection of the speedrunners for the game are doing their first speedrun because of how familiar the game is to them and others around them. And also considering that it was a web game(and not bedrock or Java edition), you wouldn't expect a lot of amazing category ideas.

3.In this new forum post, you're not making a clear point. And also you saying that you have no interest in running the game and are complaining about the abundance of categories is just taking it a step in the wrong direction. And saying that the categories are redundant only because there's not enough creativity literally makes no sense. At all.

4.Like what Insert and Smedgies have said earlier, this game was made over 10 years ago and it's a web game. And, with the modding part of this situation, I honestly still don't get what point you're trying to prove here. Self-validating is allowed and even if you don't agree with it, you cannot just attack the moderators for making a simple mistake. If you just don't agree with why the categories and ideas for the game on SRC, that can just be your opinion and no one will try to come off as rude to you. But once again, if you try to come off rude to us, it clearly serves no purpose and drama about a simple mistake and also complaining about a 10 year old game with not enough 'good' categories, just please take your buisness elsewhere.

And 5. A lot of people do care for this game. People have spent countless hours on different categories to try and get a PB. That's what speedrunning is all about. Trying to work your hardest towards a goal of a minute/second barrier, a world record, and/or maybe just a time on the leaderboards.

So all we just ask you to respect the Minecraft Classic Speedrun Community as we continue to strive for greatness.

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