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GermanyTeo-3 years ago

Hey guys,

just wanted to point out the problem of patches in d2r. 2.3 is a good example that killed a major bug (Mercenary bug) which makes it a lot harder to compete with already existing records.

With randomly patched stuff, there needs to be a protocol / solution for this.

GermanyTeo-3 years ago

Hey guys,

we are working on the leaderboard layout and this will probably take untill the end of the week.

Please DON'T submit any runs until we announce its completion.

Thanks :)

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GermanyTeo-4 years ago

Hello Community

Fuzziboy and myself have talked about the "fragile and unstable" state of speedrun rules and the leaderboards as a whole.

The changes of the past 12 months in terms of strategies and rules have created a lot of chaos (especially for new speedrunners) within the rules and the leaderboards. They also made it unintuitive to start picking this game up as a speedrun.

To stabalize rules and leaderboards (and to give us moderators some time of peace ;) ) we decided to set a time every year in which you can adress issues to the community and in which votings take place if necessary.

In 2021 this time will be within September. Untill then the rules and the leaderboards will stay as they are. These are the rules that you have voted on in discord.

If you are currently not in the discord, please join it and take part in the discussions taking place there: https://discord.gg/8zTAqc4T4h

We try to be transparent and open to the community. At the same time we can not change things every 2 months.

Greetings from your Moderation-Team

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GermanyTeo-4 years ago

Hey everyone

After 3 months and the addition of new personnel that verifies runs, we had a discussion between all the moderators and verifiers.

Following adjustments and additions to the rules apply from now on:

a ) Both timing methods have to be displayed on the video!

Recently the topic of potentioally spliced runs has come up more and more, especially with runs appearing from not streamed footage. While there is not much we can do to check if all previously made speedruns are spliced, we can do something for the future. We believe that enforcing everyone to use both timing methods will lead to so much effort to splice a run that people will think twice about it.

b ) The use of Classic will be allowed again.

-> This was a very close vote on the last discussion. I think a lot of people didn't really understand, what the classic vote really was about. So we have decided to go back on that decission.

c ) The audio levels of the ingame sound need to stay the same during the whole video unless you are changing it in the game menu or adress the reasoning behind your volume change within the run.

d ) The target line -sndbkg needs to be used by everyone going forward.

This target line allows your game to broadcast audio while you are not in the game (e.g. clicking out of the window by accident). This is an addition to the already enforced usage of at least 1 tick of game sound. The reasoning behind this is to reduce the amount of sound gaps that your videos may have.

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GermanyTeo-4 years ago

Here is a google doc to Show how to set up the basic RTA with and without loading times: Link: Basic setup

Feel free to ask questions - ideally through the discord DMs

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GermanyTeo-4 years ago

We are planning to do a full Discussion of all rules for Diablo 2 speedrunning. The goal is to find a baseline of rules which most speedrunners are happy with. This however also means that some of you might not be happy with the end result.

I am assuming that it will be necessary to make polls for certain topics. Those will only be open for speedrunners.

The rule discussion will take place at the following times: 30 May 2020 at 6 PM CEST 30 May 2020 at 9 AM PDT 30 May 2020 at 12 PM EDT 31 May 2020 at 2AM AEST

Countdown Link: https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20200530T18&p0=973&font=cursive&csz=1

https://discord.gg/hvXWUGh

In this discord I will manually give the role of speedrunner to anyone who has a completed run on this game.

I hope you will be available on that date and time - If not, we will not finalize decisions at that point - We want to give every speedrunner the opportunity to take part in potential votes.

GermanyTeo-4 years ago

Hello everyone,

after having a lengthy discussion on my stream yesterday I think it is necessary to add a way to redurce the grind that the top runners are forced into to compete by some of the currently evolving strategies.

For this reason we are willing to add new Main Categories for "seeded maps".

What does this mean? Generally speaking: Every map that is being played has a "seed number" attached to it. Using the starting parameter "-seed xxxxxxxx" (x being the seed number) you can force your game to use this map seed on every new character that is being created.

Pros:

  • You can play your Map over and over again untill you are happy with the result.
  • You can share your seed with others to compete with them on the same map.
  • You can try out the seed of others - They may be better?
  • Removes the Grind for a random Map. (This is especially important for Streamers, which most of the Runners are)
  • Runners can "practice" their strategies in this category to get prepared for the unseeded category. -> Increasing the skill lvl in later portions of the game.

Problems:

  • The RNG gets really wanky if you play with an active -seed parameter in your game.
  • How can we figure out the Seed number? -> I know that third party programs like Maphacks and the Hero Editor are capable of doing so. But is there a way that is more convenient? -> A simple Program that only shows the Seed on screen is needed.
  • With an active -seed parameter, a lot of things go crazy in Nightmare and Hell.

It has been a long time since I have played around with -seed. I did that back when I was doing my 100% segmented speedrun. I am sure there might be a number of problems that I am not aware of.

For this reason I would like to open this Thread for discussion on these topics. In Post 2 I will post a list of Rules that are open for discussion.

GermanyTeo-4 years ago

Alright... All the runs, to the best of my knowledge, have been restored to the Any% normal category... Please check if your runs are categoriesed correctly since this was all manual work...

Also: If you have time, please correct the Date of the run aswell, by editting the run. Please note that in the comment since this has to be verified again!

Looking through it on my end... It looks like there are no runs from augst 2015 and before... I am not sure why those are missing... If you want you can resubmit those if you'd like

Hey guys,

in the process of changing the rule sets i made a crucial mistake which accidentally deleted the full normal any% categorie. Apparently there is no way to use a rollback for this type of mistake.

All the runs are still stored in a history log, in which all the necessary runner information seems to be stored.

GermanyTeo-4 years ago

Hey guys

Hope you are alright and still have fun doing your speedruns in this game. Due to the current situation mixed with some educational finals coming up soon, LaV and I are not able to guarantee a quick verification of your runs.

I wanted to make you aware of the situation so you don't have to wonder, why your runs are being processed so slowly.

We will do our best to verify everything as quickly as possible and ask you for your patients in the meantime.

Stay healthy in this unusual time!

Greetz Teo1904

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GermanyTeo-6 years ago

Hi,

LaV and I have talked a lot about how to implement the over and over upcoming requests of Players x and Players 8 as a category. We have come to the conclusion that a leaderboard with subcategories for those is the only viable option. Which we now have implemented. Thanks to @fuzziboy who supported me in editing every single run (almost 900 runs in total) into the new subcategories. For those that already have runs in the categories that have been added, feel free to submit them from now on!

We stick to the same procedure concerning the amount of checking that we do on each run. It is impossible to watch every run 100% to ensure there is no changing of the player-settings. Which means we partially rely on you to report any wrongly assigned runs to us on discord, this forum-thread or via twitch.

I hope with these changes to the leaderboards we have met most of the recent requests about these categories. There always has to be some sort of compromise here and there is a way to compare the categories with each other by just switching between them.

For the future: If there is any thoughts of new categories that you want us to implement. Please have an open mind that we might your ideas not because we don't like it but mostly because there won't be too many people interested in them. With the new system we can definetly fit in more categories if necessary.

Greetz Teo

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