I guess you're right, it's same as skipping the naked brother at prison, not strickly a glitch, but it skips something that only happens if you don't do the skip. So 3 of the runs are disqualified then, Romeo's, yours and Coffee's. Added it to rules.

U raijected my run for what? i think you have to watch first before kicking out Kappa

Lol, your fault for having almost 2 runs on that vod, first of which did the jump. So that was my mistake, I didn't watch the whole vod to see you restart. It's back now.

Can you please join my Stream have to talk with you !

Really? Skip =/= Glitch. It's not exactly a manipulation, it's not hitting a trigger. That's not a glitch; that's not running somewhere someone wanted you to run. The game Amnesia has many moments where you just plain and simple "don't" encounter monsters because you didn't walk somewhere, does that make each of those void? Lol. Just my opinion, I think the definition needs a bit of a fine tune before we go about dismissing runs.

I think if you dont Trigger the Event its an Glitch cause you skip it.

Well, this is the problem with glitchless category. It's always going to be just interpretation of what is considered a glitch and what is not. We make up the rules and those will stand. Every game will have their own standards, we just decided to have very strick standard, as "intended by developers". This will rule out almost any skip, even less obvious like this one.

So what about when we spawn in the prison block and leap over the fence? We're skipping the twins talking to us (even if you don't want to watch them) or maybe that's just too harsh? Simply a suggestion.

I'd say that one is still allowed. I mean I know these rules are starting to be quite ridiculous already.

Thanks for the clarification, i completely forgot that it was a scripted event.

Don't worry coffee, we all did OpieOP

Only Romeo didnt. Kappa

Gg, destroyed the leaderboards Kappa

ok i have only just noticed this but on 1st,2nd and 3rd place glitchless videos, each person crouches behind the door in the security room and thus phases through chris breaking through the door, wouldn't this be considered "glitching" as i doubt its how the developer intended.

Yeah, I think crouching is not the problem, if you do it right next to the door, you can do pretty much the same skip. But crouching right at the door makes the door and Chris go right through you, which obviously can be considered a glitch. I'm not gonna decide on this one since I don't run the category, and I really don't want to delete records because of such small skips/time saves.

Then we'll come to an agreement it isnt a glitch seen as its neither here nor there, was just after clarification of if we can do it or not.

As had been said previously the rules can get really ridiculous if we start nit picking.