So about that big patch which hasnt changed anything on minions or towers... At this point the speedrunning its going to be just dead cause you cant beat the times out there. Hell I would put a damn bounty on it if I had the money to do so but its not physically possible to do it. the towers take longer to kill as do enemy minions (and no, the tankier minions dont take any reasonable difference in time for towers to kill them due to the break points on tower damage vs minion hp). Without a new category nobody is going to bother running this. Hell even the joust stuff isnt possible to do faster due to the relic gold changes and arena wouldnt be either due to AI building T2 defence items on tanks making their TTK too high.

I would agree with this. Due to the TTK changes across the board on not only gods but structures too, its not possible to come CLOSE to any times on any category.

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Since joust, arena, and assault are all the same maps, its just item and god changes which anybody who ran on these maps could still run times on.

Personally, even with just the new map, conquest should be an updated category for season 8. Couple in the larger changes with new items, new jungle camps and positions should make a large impact on the timings of the runs. Even playing flawlessly, minions are take longer to be able make it up to titan. even on a near flawless run with insane luck from bot movements, the best time out of 50 runs ive had is 8:11 which is still slower than my best on season 7 and 9s slower than the WR on the old map. Regardless of whether or not the newer map ends up being overall faster or slower, it seems odd to compare it to a mode where you cannot compete in that anymore.