Hey if we're finally having the discussion openly, just want to throw in that emulator can just be an additional category. Separate the times between the console runs and the emulators. Timings for the duckstation 2x10x settings are pretty close to pstv times. Even then we can have separation just to be safe and allow people to have more access and options as to runs. Not everyone can shell out for a pstv, turbo controller, capture card, the game and or a chronus, which is a fair argument but duckstation has proven to be a very reliable emulator in our testing.
I have to agree with mugi as far as the rules quote though. If talks of implementing changes and adding categories has been discussed amongst the mods, us runners have been kept out of the loop other than us asking about turbo or emulators on the discord. I personally have not been asked my opinion and I ran for about 8 months straight and still do runs weekly. On both pstv and duckstation for testing purposes to get the data we used for comparisons. I understand that the forum may not be the most ideal option for discussions, however it is the first thing new runners come to and information can be just as easily stored on here as it can on discord. Redundancy is never a bad thing imo.
Hey everyone! Syotos here. Been around in the speed running scene now just lurking in the shadows for a couple years now. I have always tuned in and watch as many marathons as I could to do my part and was always interested in becoming a speedrunner. Joined this site a few years ago to look into things myself but never had the time or opportunity to actually do anything myself. Well that has changed!
Initially I wanted to do speedruns for Final Fantasy games. While fun, I found out really quickly that playing games I really enjoyed from my childhood was not the way to go for me. Instead I have opted for more RNG Based games. Ones that change the run, almost every run. This adds more challenge to the runs and makes it to where I need to think on the fly for the games that I play. That said you can find me streaming on my days off work where you will probably catch me playing the following list of games!
Parasite Eve Metal Gear Ac!d 1 and 2 Resident Evil Remakes 2 and 4 Final Fantasy VII remake Final Fantasy X
I have always wanted to stream and share content with others. My youtube use to be full of guides, tutorials, strategies, etc. up until a few years ago when Life kicked in and I had a family that comes first. I want to get back on that grind and I want to be able to provide that content once again for the games I play and future games to be added to this list! I am 100% open to suggestions for games, Turned based strategies, rpgs, action games seem to be my more run ones but would not shy away from a challenge run.
As of a few days ago I now hold the WR for Metal Gear Ac!d and I do not intend to stop there. I want to continue to grow my list of games, Shake off my shy timid behaviors and get back to streaming and making content for people that they either find entertaining or informative and helpful. I also have picked up a knack for 3D Printing which you can see a printer live on stream as I play normally on my timer for people who enjoy that kind of thing. Most prints are characters or enemies from the games I play and run with occasional toys made for the kids here at home and side projects for the family. Anyways rant over, Hi everyone! Hope to see you guys on the forums!
Just recently got the WR for Metal Gear Ac!d. Next goal is to beat that time. Beyond that I want to learn more speedruns and submit more runs. I have always been timid or worried about submitting runs because I'm awkward and weird when I stream. I think next goal for me will be Metal Gear Ac!d 2, then Super mario rpg, maybe even actually submit some of my Resident evil remake runs that I put off forever.
Thank you crazy for your work towards it. My one thing is why does it need to run at the same speed of older emulators though. If it can be run stably by all runners while cutting down on loads then why not run at a higher read speed?
It's like I said previously, runners who had only a psone moved to psp or pstv when those platforms came available due to faster read speed, load times. Difference here is that a runner would just have to download duckstation instead of hunting for a console online. Would be more accessible (due to not having to find a pstv or psp) and cut down the runtime a bit(load times, screen transitions, battle loads) which makes it more accessible to more people. Everything I've tried so far does not affect the actual gameplay or fmvs as far as their speed though the crazy high settings do cause auto issues. I really feel like 3x seek and read speed could be the setting to use as it is pretty quick for all loads and doesn't cause issues with audio.
I agree with duckstation. Many games have already adapted it for running their games. This way everyone would have access to that emulator and by using the same agreed on setting could run with a emulator download. I went through hell trying to find a pstv the last few months to start practicing runs on something other than my cell phone lol.
I have noticed the load times on duckstation under the 10x load time setting are insane. Everything from getting into a battle to screen transitions and cutscene fading in and out is so much faster and smoother with it. 10x I did notice causing some audio issues on cut scenes but timing wise still played the whole duration of it as intended.
Was personally thinking of uploading some runs using duckstation on each of the different speed settings probably just up through the end of central Park to give everyone an idea of what the load times would be like and to help make a decision as to what setting should be the max allowed. (20x seems like it has issues with audio during gameplay)
Either way to your point the old emulators do not receieve support anymore and with the newest version of windows some of them have gotten kinda buggy(looking at you ppsspp). It would be nice to use an emulator that stays updated in the current time and makes it easier to switch disc , load times , better controller support, etc.
Older runs using emulators can stay on the boards and if those players wanted to comeback and redo their times they would be more than welcome to of course but it's just like when pstv and psp came out with pe1. Everyone that was running on ps1 realized the time savings from the faster loads and upgraded by buying those new systems.
I might try it on pc too eventually. Found out you cant skip the cut scenes on ps4. Kind of annoying because it makes an already long run longer but still gonna go for it. IDK how well my pc will handle streaming ffx and playing at the same time. Right now im streaming the remote play app from the ps4 so its not weighing down the pc that much.
Alright so no cheer but yes flee gotcha! Alright good luck to whoever is wanting to run. Ive been doing some note taking and trying random crap out to see how well it will go hopefully will have a run going soon
Sounds good then. What about getting flee like the ps2 category?
Also would a death be considered end of run? As in if you make a save during the run right before a risky ass boss and he kills you in before you even get a chance to do anything due to rng, would you be able to load that save and make one more try before having to restart. I know thats not exactly speedrun friendly as you would lose a lot of time doing but nsh is kind of a rough run already...
I think ive decided to go the ps4 route. I finally got everything setup at least minimally enough to work for now and will try a few casual runs first to figure out how I want to go about it. I could not find a nsg guide anywhere but I rememer a few parts from when I tried it out years ago lol. I will take a look at the any% guides and see what I can come up with. I do have the pc version as well so maybe that will come later on once I get the feel of everything again. One question though in the ps2 section that has nsg runs in the rules it says except flee. Does that mean we can level and get flee but none of the other nodes except for cheer that is in the tutorial of the grid?
Ive never tried a full speed run but I think it would be fun to learn and optimize. Always got distracted with blitzball lol. Ill see if I can get one done for you guys :)
Thinking about doing some on either the pc or ps4 but i dont see a spot for it on the leaderboard is it just not a run anymore or has no one done it yet? did one a few years ago but it was segmented and wanna try to go for an all in one go.