Discuss here. Feel free to make a new topic if you have a really specific reason but for now I think this is fine (for all 3 games).

Looks good Thrillness. I agree with keeping everything in the UC1 subforums but I would start a topic for each game (ie. UC1 Glitches, UC2, UC3). Keep this as the general thread of course.

Thanks Immersed. I was wondering when you would post up your UC2 times. I was going to make UC2 NG+ category but it seems you removed your run so I never bothered.

Found a new OoB in UC3 but useless. Would have been cool if it reloaded the outside area.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kmkojp-r-c

Some fun stuff from the final level of UC1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_ytVZrZHvM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouLSvuSo9NU

Nice finds.

I also made some progress in UC2.

One area I airwalked to in chapter 1, I actually was able to see the chapter 15 tree up in the distance (and also a carrage). The tree cutscene is what transports you to the fight. When 15 loads, they must just move it into place. I however can't remember exactly where I airwalked to and it was pretty high up. I just just playing on autopilot, not expecting anything good to happen.

Hey all, Warren here. Just introducing myself here as I am a huge fan of speedrunning. I worked as QA on UC3 so I look forward to seeing any cool stuff you guys can find!

Hi Warren

Good to have you here. I don't know how much control you had in QA but I've wondered about potential skips in UC3 if they were removed to stop sequence breaking. Like theoretically, if someone found a way to clip through any wall or launch them self like in UC1, would these actually work?

1. After you lift the beam to let Sully in at Chapter 6, above you is Chapter 7. Would it be possible to get any checkpoints from 7 while being inside 6? This would save close to 10 minutes if it worked.

2. Is Chapter 8 and 9 linked? It's just I noticed that when Chloe does her "middle way" speech at the end of 8, at the left hand side you can see the Chapter 9 area where you run away and they shoot at you with rocket launchers. If you did manage to get up there, would the cutscene at the spiral staircase be active? That's an easy like 9 minutes saved. I threw a grenade up to the platform and it was all solid so I have high hopes for this one.

3. Chapter 11 is really interesting. As you know, the only thing stopping you from getting outside early is that door. Let's just say I managed to clip out somehow at the beginning of 11, would the Marlo "drug" cutscene be there or is it only placed after you do the whole underground stuff to stop sequence breaking? If not, this is another 10 minute time saver.

Thanks

Great find in UC2 today. I confirmed that Chapter 15 is in fact Chapter 1. If you load up Chapter 15 and airwalk back to the cart, you can pick up the treasure called Ghau Amulet Thogchag which you can only get from Chapter 1.

Ok nice Thrillness. But the thing is that u can also get a treasure from chapter 14 in chapter 20 in U1. But at the moment it does ot look like they are the same chapter :/

I don't think any area of any Uncharted game uses a different map when you return to it. The developers must have recognized that some huge sequence breaks where possible (e.g. 1-15 in UC2 and 14-20 in UC1) so they took some precautions.

If we take UC1 as an example, the game removes that upper area of 20 inside an earlier chapter (14) as a line of defense to stop people reaching the upper area checkpoint. This is why it works and reloads in while you are in 20 because the game has no reason to not load it (they didn't need to code anything). It's just if the developers thought someone would get there, it won't load. If they didn't think about it, load it in. This is generally how the series works. If it detects you getting near an area it just loads in dynamically.

Thinking about this more, the Chapter 7 trail being walked on in Chapter 6 means I am right. One would assume Chapter 7 was on a different map to 6, but Oven's find that it loads in after you satisfy the last checkpoint means it isn't.

This approach to game development (if I am right) exposes a weakness. They have to actually spend time to change the loading rules which means they have something to hide. If I was to guess, it's that them disabling checkpoints is extremely difficult in the game programming so they tackle it this way. I guarantee if you somehow levitated yourself up to the 20 area, you would hit the 20 checkpoint inside 14.

Of course this is all just speculation. I might be completely wrong but I've played enough of these games to make accurate predictions.

Sssoooo - have a look at this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzER313AYAI

If you skip ch 20-ch 21 transition then the end of ch 21 does not load properly. 

It is very interesting that some of the triggers of the final scene are tied to your position but if you don't hit the checkpoints in 21 it doesn't load in the final checkpoint to transition you to 22. It does however load in the final sequence failure which then restarts the final scene of 21.

Hey TheThrillness,

I'll take a look at those examples this weekend when I get a chance, I haven't touched the single player at all since the game launched. I can tell you though that it would be pretty hard to find huge sequence breaks in UC3 by the way the game is designed. I'm not saying it's impossible, but you would have to be really creative to discover one.

With regards to your first question about clipping or launching, I believe this may be possible, but it wouldn't be a huge skip, maybe a "checkpoint" or two ahead, that is if those checkpoints have even been loaded at that point.

Just dropping by to say ahoy there everyone. \o/

In particular hello to Warren, it'll be really interesting to have some background information on UC3's design. Thanks for stopping by and offering your knowledge! \o/

It's still early-days at the moment, but it does seem that it was designed more linearly than UC1 or UC2; checkpoints only seem to load 1-2 at a time, so it may be difficult to find stuff, especially with the 2-way collision UC3 has. It'd be cool to have a couple of skips; even small ones to show off in the run though.

Even UC2 showed a little restraint with it's pre-loading of checkpoints, otherwise, Chapter 22-23 would be 2 minutes long, haha. But then again, the train glitch sure is a thing. >_>

Oh, also, there's an online playstation speedrun marathon happening in February. Signups close on Jan 20th.  Doesn't look like it's gunna be huge, but I've submitted UC2; if nothing else I could use the commentary practice for AVcon later this year, hehe.

If anyone wants to submit one of the other games that would be cool; the submission form is on the marathon's [SDA Thread](https://forum.speeddemosarchive.com/post/playstation_marathon_open_submissions.html#playstation_marathon_open_submissions_21-). \o/

is there someone interested at a uncharted skype gruop where we also can discuss little news and stuff?

It's a decent idea but we need to make sure this is not counter productive to the point of establishing this forum. For example, if someone is not in the Skype group and something is discussed in the Skype group, people feel left out or miss key info. Not to mention not everyone might have Skype.

However, if we get enough people who want it then feel free to start a group up and give your username.

Ok i know what you mean. I think i will just make a group and if someone wants to join he can post his id here or add me directly (m116marc) on skype. And every big or important found we still post in the forum so everyone can see it.