Yo, got some old vids of when a few of the ALttP boys ran this...

One of the categories was "8 Tablets" which ended at Trinexx, with current knowledge of OoB in the game it is no longer necessary to wait for Zelda so "8 Tablets" is garbage, but here it is from 2014 in 31:21:

I propose there be "All Dungeons No EG" (The current Any% No EG) and Week 4 Any% No EG as categories, since players could have purchased the game on week 4 and been able to gather the equips you would normally collect in Weeks 1-3 from an NPC outside the dungeon. That may sound like a lot of fluting around just to collect equips, but with newer OoB techniques, there may be a fair amount of travel time cut down. Also in 2014 I was able to do 13:22:

I also did run "All Dungeons No EG" or "All Weeks No EG" or "Any% No EG" or whatever you wanna call it (FRICKIN ALTTP) but I can't find the video. Regardless, you just use vanilla ALttP's Turtle Rock Clip to get over to Ganon's Tower in this game and entirely skip waiting for Zelda.

Sorry for the late reply. I'm not sure if there's a way to watch the forum for a game so I'm not notified of posts or anything. So let me get this straight, you would like to have the current any% category be re-named to All Dungeons to make sure the runs keep using all 4 weeks but also include a new category that's just for week 4? If so, that can be done easily.

haha i have the same problem, hence the late reply on my part as well

all dungeons no eg is not quite the same as the current any% namely because it uses 1 frame clips to access ganons tower without waiting... im not sure if this is already used?

and yeah about week 4 thing

Ok after reviewing the leaderboards, i noticed that Acmlm was moved to "Any%" even though he did not use an Exploration Glitch, he merely used an out of bounds clip....

Everyone's runs currently that do not skip the 20 minute wait could be called "Any% No Major Glitches" if they don't want to be obsoleted by runs that clip through the mountain to get the Gannon. Otherwise, they could just be all combined and require the clip for "main category".

I only suggest this because that's basically how ALttP is organized, since this is essentially an official romhack of ALttP itself. I did look for more overworld + dungeon clips to include in a Any% No EG route but failed to find any. Furthermore, if you accept the waiting time, then it pretty much means no matter how much time you save on Tablets 7+8 doesn't matter, it just means you'll be waiting for longer to get to Gannon.

Hopefully this makes more sense than my previous posts, I tend to be really crap at explaining stuff. :>

If there any questions about what Exploration Glitch is and what Out of Bounds clips are and aren't please message me on discord and we can talk it out.

I agree with the Any% NMG suggestion.

I plan to also run with the clip at a later point so I definitely wouldn't have any argument to separating and creating a Cat for all the runs with the wait.

Seancass, I'd love to discuss this with you but we aren't in the same discord servers anywhere. I'd love the explanation and difference between eg and a clip because it looks extremely similar to any other eg but if you can explain the difference for me i'll move the run back and i'll make a separate category for nmg.

The rules for Any% No EG have always stated "Start from Week 1 and go till you defeat Ganon."

Seems strange to change the rules for the established category out from under old runs. At least make a new category if you're just gonna run Week 4 only.

mhf and I discussed it made a seperate category for all weeks because of the ability to beat the game in just week 4

hopefully doesn't offend anyone, wasn't meant to be like that I just wanted the leaderboards to not look imbalanced a so we agreed it would be a good idea

please don't hate me I'm just trying to be a good mod :/ but also a runner of the game myself at the same time

and apparently "beating the game from just week 4" has been something looked for for a while when it was right in front of our eyes so I didn't see why exactly it would be bad

could submit the 13:51 all tablets too but I don't want to fuck up that leaderboard Kappa

Everyone knew you could beat the game from Week 4. It's just unbelievably uninteresting. But if you're having fun, go nuts :^)

I completely agree that's why there's a separate category for all weeks and it's still the main category

if you want to talk about it more go ahead and hop on the discord so it's easier to respond and stuff https://discord.gg/XzEYpBQ

also if everyone knew about it why is this section of the forum even a thing and why didn't anyone do runs of this bad week 4 category sorry I might be coming off as rude but i'm really not trying to I just don't know how else to talk about this